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Pruning Gardenias - Question
Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:56 pm
Sorry for yet another Gardenia topic. I have five. They've been in the ground about 4 maybe 5 years now, and 4 are well established and growing great.
Zone 8.
I've read a bunch online and it seems all over the place on a best practice on pruning, a whole lot of if's and's or but's.
Last year, they bloomed great, magnificent, started in April and never really stopped until December. I didn't do shite to them. Didn't water, didn't fertilize, didn't prune, maybe I did a little deadheading. My wife at some point pruned them last year, but I don't recall when.
This year, April came and they started blooming like crazy again, wonderful! I did a good job of deadheading one day, and they stopped blooming. The whole summer, very few blooms. I thought the whole point of deadheading was for more blooms. The opposite happened this year.
I still see some buds on them right now, but how do I know if those are buds to bloom in the Fall or if those are buds for next spring?
This is where I get to the crux of my question-
As I understand it, there are really two blooming seasons for them- Spring and Fall. Whatever you prune in Spring is what will grow out and bloom in the Fall, and whatever you prune in Fall will grow out and bloom next Spring.
Am I on the right track here?
Zone 8.
I've read a bunch online and it seems all over the place on a best practice on pruning, a whole lot of if's and's or but's.
Last year, they bloomed great, magnificent, started in April and never really stopped until December. I didn't do shite to them. Didn't water, didn't fertilize, didn't prune, maybe I did a little deadheading. My wife at some point pruned them last year, but I don't recall when.
This year, April came and they started blooming like crazy again, wonderful! I did a good job of deadheading one day, and they stopped blooming. The whole summer, very few blooms. I thought the whole point of deadheading was for more blooms. The opposite happened this year.
I still see some buds on them right now, but how do I know if those are buds to bloom in the Fall or if those are buds for next spring?
This is where I get to the crux of my question-
As I understand it, there are really two blooming seasons for them- Spring and Fall. Whatever you prune in Spring is what will grow out and bloom in the Fall, and whatever you prune in Fall will grow out and bloom next Spring.
Am I on the right track here?
Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:07 pm to deeprig9
I have never watered fertilized or pruned my gardenias. They bloom every year, heavily in spring then lightly right now. Gardenias have two states of being…thriving or dead. If they like the spot they are in and are happy leave them alone
Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:36 pm to cgrand
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If they like the spot they are in and are happy leave them alone
This is my position also, but I have this wife see... and she wants to manicure these things... she can't help herself... so if she's going to prune them, I want specific rules for her so she doesn't frick them up.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 10:08 am to deeprig9
Some gardenia pruning "ifs and butts" is because older varieties bloom on old growth, while some newer ones bloom on new and old growth. Mine in BTR bloom spring and are starting a summer/fall bloom now.
Last summer drought and a hard winter freeze killed 3 new plants and badly burned 3 established plants. The burned plants have re-leafed and have a few blooms. The new leaves are much smaller so far. I may cutback severely after spring bloom.
Encourage wife to cut flowers back to a leaf node 3 or 4 inches below. Then after bloom take more off to keep shape, and size she likes. I deadhead mainly to get sloppy brown old flowers off.
Last summer drought and a hard winter freeze killed 3 new plants and badly burned 3 established plants. The burned plants have re-leafed and have a few blooms. The new leaves are much smaller so far. I may cutback severely after spring bloom.
Encourage wife to cut flowers back to a leaf node 3 or 4 inches below. Then after bloom take more off to keep shape, and size she likes. I deadhead mainly to get sloppy brown old flowers off.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:19 pm to Tree_Fall
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Some gardenia pruning "ifs and butts" is because older varieties bloom on old growth, while some newer ones bloom on new and old growth
Mine are "August Beauties" but look like August shite. Do you know if that variety blooms on new and old growth?
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:54 pm to deeprig9
August Beauty blooms on new growth. So, prune after bloom (if any) ends early Sept. The last surviving AB that I have was planted last summer. It had 1st flower ever this week. I had some 20-year-old gardenias on a south facing wall that were doing great with minimal attention until 2 years ago when they started slowly dying stem by stem. Fungus attacking the roots seemed to be the cause. Good Luck.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 4:25 pm to deeprig9
Keep doing whatever it is you are or aren’t doing. Congrats. Gardenias are my fav and I can’t grow them for squat.
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