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need to kill a section of grass for a garden bed

Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:19 am
Posted by mizslu314
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:19 am
Ive tried the 8 inch tiller and the blanket trick. I worry about using chemicals that will hurt the plants. Anyone know of any spray that is good for just grass, or have any other ideas?
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31727 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:21 am to
roundup will kill it. it will not linger once it kills the grass. roundup only works via photosynthesis. just carefully spray the area
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 9:23 am
Posted by tigeroarz1
Winston-Salem, NC
Member since Oct 2013
3375 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:34 am to
Roundup. Leave it a day or so then do whatever you want to it.
Posted by FishinTygah84
LA
Member since Dec 2013
1976 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:31 am to
Ron Strahan says for instances like that, get you a paintbrush and "paint" the roundup on the actual grass or weeds.
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
5047 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:29 am to
It's recommended to wait at least 3 days after spraying with Roundup(Glyphosphate) before planting.

There is a Postemergent herbicide that works more slowly than Roundup that is safe to spray over your garden EXCEPT for corn. It will kill corn. It's Clethodim or Sethoxydim. Mix 1 oz per gal of water and add 1 oz of mineral oil per gallon of water.



Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
6539 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:28 pm to
If you want to go chemical free, you could spread a covering of dry hay over the area you intend to convert into a garden and then burn it. It will burn the hay and the grass below, effectively killing it.

If you go that route, try to purchase some old hay from someone who was unable to sell last year's hay. It should be dry enough to accomplish the task. I've done this before on a larger patch of ground to clear it out for planting turf grass.
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 1:29 pm
Posted by mizslu314
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 4:19 pm to
the area is up against the house
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
6539 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

the area is up against the house


Then roundup or the generic version of it is your best bet.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5810 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 6:08 pm to
Half vinegar half water. Spray it. Three days later spray again.
Posted by HogWalloper
LaLaLand
Member since Jan 2020
470 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:20 pm to
Cardboard, compost, and grass clippings. Get the book, "Lasagna Gardening" by Patricia Lanza.

ETA: That might sound like a Chaz garden, but it isn't when done properly.
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 10:21 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

Half vinegar half water. Spray it. Three days later spray again.


Acetic Acid needs to be somewhere around 20% in order to effectively kill plants. Diluting vinegar? Which would be somewhere around 4%, isn't going to cut it.
Posted by F73ME
SE LA
Member since May 2018
857 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:23 pm to
I once accidentally killed a bunch of grass by leaving out a sheet of visqueen over it all day in the summer sun, so you could try that
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9945 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

Acetic Acid needs to be somewhere around 20% in order to effectively kill plants.


That’s going to mess with your soil pH. Just use glycophosphate. It’s not rocket science.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10145 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:10 am to
quote:

I once accidentally killed a bunch of grass by leaving out a sheet of visqueen over it all day in the summer sun,

Black visquenn and a couple of 95 degree, sunny days...burn it down to the ground.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:48 am to
quote:

I worry about using chemicals that will hurt the plants.
not a problem after 24 hrs. I've sprayed grass many times and planted fruit, vegetables, and grass seeds the next day with no problems. the chemicals absorb quickly and what doesn't absorb evaporates. absolutely nothing to worry about.

if you want to be extra sure, use weed killer, wait a day, then soak with water. whatever might be left will be so diluted it wouldn't pose a threat. win win bc it will help the seeds also.
Posted by mizslu314
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Member since Sep 2013
15973 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 1:12 pm to
I have now tried:

Tilling
Suffocating/blanketing
Grass and weed killer

Still, the grass and weeds wont go away. It looks awful with the hydrangeas to see a bunch of grass between them. Im running out of options...
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
3792 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 1:41 pm to
This is what worked for me. During winter, i raked all the leaves onto the section of grass i want to kill and covered it with plastic.

By Feb end, i had a perfect garden bed with lot of worms and dead grass.

I'm going to do the same again this year to create more landscaping beds along my fence lines.
This post was edited on 7/28/20 at 1:43 pm
Posted by mizslu314
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/28/20 at 1:44 pm to
The only issue is that its the front yard, and the house its like 20 feet back, so might be an eye sore.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12739 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 1:54 pm to
I used a weed and brush killer, a little stronger than roundup. Spray it on, give it three days, and till it up. May have to spray again after a week or two, but it took care of clearing a large overgrown area I wanted my garden a few years ago.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17711 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 1:55 pm to
I laid out the shower liner on the yard one day to cut it before I installed it got a little carried away doing something and it was just hours grass was yellow and dead the next day
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