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Mix of Bermuda and Centipede to start...
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:07 am
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:07 am
New construction home here. Yard is completely bare. It's about 1.5 acres.
The ground is compacted pretty tight. I'm a complete noob when in comes to grass stuff.
My plan was to use a spreader to toss out a mix of bermuda and centipede before my dirt guy comes for final grade. I figured while he's out there working the ground, the seed will get worked in as well.
I figured those two grasses because bermuda will pop up quickly to stop soil erosion after final grade and centipede will snuff it out later....?
Please help. Thoughts?
The ground is compacted pretty tight. I'm a complete noob when in comes to grass stuff.
My plan was to use a spreader to toss out a mix of bermuda and centipede before my dirt guy comes for final grade. I figured while he's out there working the ground, the seed will get worked in as well.
I figured those two grasses because bermuda will pop up quickly to stop soil erosion after final grade and centipede will snuff it out later....?
Please help. Thoughts?
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:26 am to OneAyedJack
You won’t want it buried too deep. Only a fluff over it really. Just keep that in mind.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:35 am to OneAyedJack
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:45 am to b-rab2
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Why not just have a nice bermuda yard?
I truly don't know....
I know nothing about grass. I've heard that around here it's all centipede and St. Augustine grass.
I'm willing to have a bermuda yard if it's "a thing."
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:50 am to OneAyedJack
higher maintenance. I think its a lot prettier. DOES NOT LIKE SHADE. Where do you live?
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:53 am to OneAyedJack
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I figured those two grasses because bermuda will pop up quickly to stop soil erosion after final grade and centipede will snuff it out later....?
Bermuda doesn't really pop up quickly, and centipede won't snuff it out
If you want something quick, get sod.
I wouldn't mix two varieties of southern grass, figure out what you want, and go with one grass type.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:59 am to OneAyedJack
Don't seed until he grades. The dirt should be nice and loose for you to rake the seed into. Also, make sure he top dresses with top soil, not fill dirt.
Centipede will not crowd out bermuda. The opposite will happen. If you want centipede, just use centipede. It will take a while though. If you want bermuda, just go with bermuda, it will germinate faster and fill in the yard faster but there will be more maintenance than the centipede.
However, if you want the quickest route possible and don't want to sod, look into hydroseeding with bermuda. It is more forgiving in regards to watering in the beginning and the added mulch will help with the erosion issues.
Centipede will not crowd out bermuda. The opposite will happen. If you want centipede, just use centipede. It will take a while though. If you want bermuda, just go with bermuda, it will germinate faster and fill in the yard faster but there will be more maintenance than the centipede.
However, if you want the quickest route possible and don't want to sod, look into hydroseeding with bermuda. It is more forgiving in regards to watering in the beginning and the added mulch will help with the erosion issues.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:30 pm to OneAyedJack
If you start with bermuda and centipede, you will eventually end up with just bermuda and no centipede... I'm fighting that fight right now... bermuda crept in to my centipede and is taking over in a bad way
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:39 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
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bermuda crept in to my centipede and is taking over in a bad way
You trying a sethoxydim-based herbicide? I’m having some success but also finding results to be inconsistent. I also noticed that the label (Bonide Grass Beater) states that it controls up to a 6” stolen length. Many of my Bermuda stolons seem longer than that so maybe that’s contributing to some of the problem.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:00 pm to LSU Fan SLU Grad
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You trying a sethoxydim-based herbicide
Last year, I hit it hard with Atrizine, aerated, put down top soil and threw down centipede seed... half the centipede actually came through, which was promising
This year, I tried 2,4-D when it was dormant and it didnt finish the job... now it's back and parts of my back yard are too far gone
There's only one real play left and it's going nuclear and resodding with something else... that'll be next year's project
Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:11 pm to OneAyedJack
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OneAyedJack
Where do you live?
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:28 pm to OneAyedJack
Centipede mixed in with Bermuda sounds like a nightmare. It’s what I’m trying to avoid but the Bermuda is being a little byotch.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:43 pm to b-rab2
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Where do you live?
Walker, LA
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:45 pm to RollDatRoll
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If you want something quick, get sod.
Did I mention that it is 1.5 acres? I hope to be rich one day, but today is not that day.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:47 pm to BallsEleven
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Also, make sure he top dresses with top soil, not fill dirt.
I don't think I can afford top soil for that much property.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:54 pm to OneAyedJack
As long as you aren’t having to raise the height of the property, it shouldn’t cost you too much more and it will go a longgggg way as far as getting your lawn established.
It is very obvious in my yard where they added more fill dirt and which areas they didn’t have to add as much. The spots over my culverts still haven’t filled in all the way in a year and a half later even with common Bermuda.
It is very obvious in my yard where they added more fill dirt and which areas they didn’t have to add as much. The spots over my culverts still haven’t filled in all the way in a year and a half later even with common Bermuda.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:58 pm to OneAyedJack
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I don't think I can afford top soil for that much property.
Just where they grade (strip existing top soil) or bring in fill. If the natural grade/grass is left in other areas, the top soil that is there should be sufficient.
I’d suggest bringing in sod for the sloped areas around the house and drive. This will keep the erosion to a minimum and give you a nice start on the lawn. You can then seed the remaining portion of the yard in sections. Or purchase more sod.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:24 pm to LSUtigerME
When I established my yard ( new construction) we put down 22 pallets of sod around the house.The rest was approximately 1/2 acre,we had that hydroseeded.The guy did a mixture of Bermuda and Centipede,he explained the Bermuda would germinate fast but the Centipede would eventually take over.That’s what happened,
He explained to me that Bermuda needs lots of fertilizer and Centipede doesn’t and that’s why it takes over.
I do get a little Bermuda along the edge of my limestone driveway that grows out into the rocks but I keep it down with Round Up.
He explained to me that Bermuda needs lots of fertilizer and Centipede doesn’t and that’s why it takes over.
I do get a little Bermuda along the edge of my limestone driveway that grows out into the rocks but I keep it down with Round Up.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:02 am to OneAyedJack
Walker, LA will recieve quite a bit a of rain during the summer and the centipede will do well. I am partial to Bermuda, and I think hydroseeding might be something worth looking into.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:39 pm to b-rab2
Hydroseeding a really good, cost effective option for establishing a nice lawn over a larger area.
I’m not a big fan of Centipede, but it is cheap and popular. It’s very low maintenance and generally grows in poor soil conditions.
I’m not a big fan of Centipede, but it is cheap and popular. It’s very low maintenance and generally grows in poor soil conditions.
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