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Louisiana 811 Question

Posted on 5/20/21 at 8:04 am
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 8:04 am
I am adding a circle driveway and having a landscape company redo my front garden (so layout compliments new driveway). I contacted LA 811 because I knew we would be close to the gas line, and the sewage runs directly under where the work will take place. However, the gas company (Atmos) did not indicate depth. Is there a way to determine before digging (although I think we are in the clear)?

It also appears the water department does not participate in the 811 program. Does anyone know if I need to contact Jefferson Parish Water Dept to get someone out. I am sure the sewage line is more than 2 feet below surface, but I don't want these companies to just assume.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 8:07 am to
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Is there a way to determine before digging (although I think we are in the clear)?


probe

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Posted by Sheepdog1833
Member since Feb 2019
732 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:37 am to
Probe rod like was said is possible. But be careful, you can probe straight through some of these lines so don’t be trying to drive it in with a hammer.
Your contractors take responsibility for these utilities. So make sure that they carry up to date insurance. The truth of the matter is as long as you’ve called 811, even if you break a line, most utilities will fix for free. However, more than likely your contractor will have to fix your water service if on the property side of the meter. Also, you’ll be at the mercy of the parish or individual company to wait on repairs. To find the water look for fire hydrants. Typically the water is on one side of the street. The hydrant is usually about 2-3 on the property side of the main but this varies by neighborhood. However the water line is supposed to be buried a minimum of 3’. Again shouldn’t be an issue. Your service however can and will be very shallow. So you just kind of have to trace it from your meter. Same for your gas.

To sum up you really should only have to worry about your service lines for water and gas, which are typically less than 1” so a little more difficult to find with a probing rod. especially in hard ground. Good luck
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19004 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:42 am to
Damn, never even considered just probing. Thanks
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19004 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:47 am to
Thanks for the info. Finally spoke to someone and they told me I have to deal with the parish for the water/sewer. I am mainly concerned with location (then depth) of sewage. I have a general idea of where it is, but obviously want to be sure and figure out depth (with probe because they don't report depth), and it runs right next to the tree where we will need to grind the stump.

I am not overly concerned with location of gas & water lines to house as it will be outside of the area we're working. But, I definitively want to make sure for comfort/liability purposes. Like I stated gas is just outside of the area we're working, so the contractor will either have to hand dig, or we'll cut it short 1-2 feet. I believe I know where water is just based on meter location and I've seen them do work on neighbors house (line to house went straight from the meter, then cut a 90 at their shutoff).
Posted by Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
1075 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:37 am to
Your contractor should call 811 to get his company added to the ticket. You should be able to dig with a sharpshooter shovel in the sensitive areas to reduce the chances of damaging anything
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:48 pm to
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Damn, never even considered just probing. Thanks
. If you’re very concerned and/or using equipment I’d pot hole the line after probing to verify depth. If using a shovel I would not worry about it. You won’t break a plastic gas line or sewer line with a shovel unless you try hard to break them.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
136982 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 9:47 am to
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It also appears the water department does not participate in the 811 program. Does anyone know if I need to contact Jefferson Parish Water Dept to get someone out. I am sure the sewage line is more than 2 feet below surface, but I don't want these companies to just assume.

Water companies definitely participate, however, they will only mark to your meter. As with all utilities, they're only responsible to their meter. Everything between the meter and your house is on you. Sewer laterals are your responsibility as well and the only sewer that will get marked is the main.
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