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Is this still true today (dishwasher related)?
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:42 am
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:42 am
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GE did not purchase, does not own Fisher & Paykel company. Haier became major-share owner of Fisher & Paykel in 2012. Haier bought GE appliances division in 2016. Thus HAIER owns both Fisher & Paykel and GE. The Café drawer dishwasher is a rebadged F&P via Haier owning both companies.
This was posted on Houzz.
My F&P is starting to act up. It is 11 years old. Has been solid, but recently had to replace the control board in 2020 and motor in 2023. Currently, I am getting an error message that indicates low water pressure, which is not the case in my house. I find that I can only complete dishwashing cycles late in the middle of the night, which contradicts what I just wrote. But even then, it's 50/50 whether the washing cycle will even complete. Water pressure inside my home has never been an issue before.
I am partial to double dishwasher drawers, and will only consider another one.
Is 11 years a good life expectancy out of a dishwasher today? Or would you look at the cost to repair my issue today and just keep plugging along until it dies completely?
The majority of my kitchen appliances are F&P - dishwasher, gas cooktop, blower, and refrigerator. My double ovens are made by KitchenAid. I'm not opposed to mixing and matching. Is F&P still the best double drawer dishwasher made today? Does Bosch have anything that competes?
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 8:45 am
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:46 am to Will Cover
Paging Napoleon
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:47 am to HeadSlash
Yes, that guy knows a lot for sure.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:51 am to Will Cover
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Is 11 years a good life expectancy out of a dishwasher today?
I'd do my best to repair. Get rid of it and she gets half of everything you own.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:53 am to Chingon Ag
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I'd do my best to repair. Get rid of it and she gets half of everything you own.
I am divorced. I'm free now. And content. And happy.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:59 am to Will Cover
I had an appliance repair guy here the other day to work on our microwave. I asked him which brand appliance was best these days. He said none of them. They’re all crap. With new appliances you can expect to get about 5 years out of them.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 10:58 am
Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:02 am to George Dickel
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I had an appliance repair guy here the other day to work on our microwave. I asked him which brand appliance was best these days. He said none of them. There’s all crap. With new appliances you can expect to get about 5 years out of them.
I had a KA refrigerator that was absolutely crap. It lasted about 5 years total. The repair person said the amount of repairs needed weren't worth the money. Ice maker would constantly break (I now know why - never buy an ice maker that sits in the refrigerated part of the refrigerator), LED lights all went out, completely stopped cooling, seals were bad, etc. It was a lemon.
I paid $2600 for it too. Went with F&P.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:09 am to Will Cover
The inlet valve for FandP is dirt cheap online. Like $40.
It's a bad inlet valve. Common issue with them.
It's a bad inlet valve. Common issue with them.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 10:13 am
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:10 am to George Dickel
This is true. Other than Speed Queen for washers and Capital for ovens.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:21 am to Napoleon
K/A fridge & D/W, bosch ovens and cooktop, whirlpool freezer all at 15 yrs. I could see getting a new D/W. the coated rack tines are rusting. racks are expensive to replace. The door spring mechanism has long since broken. I have the parts to replace but never got around to it.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:21 am to Napoleon
Thank you, Napoleon. I will take a much closer look at this.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:55 am to Will Cover
I like working on F&P. No screws.
Just push tabs. A flat blade screwdriver and a pair of pliers is the only tools you need to work on them.
Take the bottom drawer out and remove the control board cover and the valve just needs to be snapped out of place. Then put new one in.
15 minute job tops.
Just push tabs. A flat blade screwdriver and a pair of pliers is the only tools you need to work on them.
Take the bottom drawer out and remove the control board cover and the valve just needs to be snapped out of place. Then put new one in.
15 minute job tops.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:04 am to Napoleon
My LG dishwasher threw an AE code last week... did some googling and youtube and was able to fix it without any parts. An airgap piece had buildup in it causing a valve to not open and close. I was able to clear that blockage out and dishwasher is back to normal.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:29 pm to Will Cover
If you already replaced the motor etcetera, so you're not afraid to tear into it if needed.
My experience has been that most of these machines are pretty modular, and it is the disassembly /dissection and reassembly that can be the challenging part.
hopefully you can Internet your way through diagnosis and treatment. The long running cycles with weird diagnosis codes has been the controller board more often than the downstream allegedly malfunctioning component, in my experience
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Older appliances are definitely better. Worth the time to repair.
My experience has been that most of these machines are pretty modular, and it is the disassembly /dissection and reassembly that can be the challenging part.
hopefully you can Internet your way through diagnosis and treatment. The long running cycles with weird diagnosis codes has been the controller board more often than the downstream allegedly malfunctioning component, in my experience
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Older appliances are definitely better. Worth the time to repair.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 5/21/24 at 7:42 pm to Napoleon
Ordered the part, arriving later this week. Watched a YT video. Doesn't seem too difficult, even for me. I think the hardest thing will be in the limited space inside the dishwasher.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:37 pm to Lesalli
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LG dishwasher threw an AE code last week
I got so much crap four going all LG in the house. But other than the craft ice maker getting worked to death... It's all be great.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 9:07 am to X123F45
I've got an LG dryer purchased in 2014 and went through the 2016 flood. Still going strong. Will probably die this week now that I post about it here.
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