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re: Hot Water Heater
Posted on 9/2/19 at 12:31 pm to jflsufan
Posted on 9/2/19 at 12:31 pm to jflsufan
20+ years out of a water heater you sound like you've never serviced in any way is well past it's normal lifespan.
Like others have mentioned, you need to find out why that overflow pan is not draining and clear that issue up. And like already mentioned, hook a hose to the drain that will be near the bottom of the water heater and drain it outside the house.
It will have to be done anyway for the plumbers to take out and replace with a new water heater. Water weighs just over 8 lbs. a gallon, and if that is a 40 gallon heater, you're looking at 320+ lbs. just in water, plus the weight of the heater to move.
Like others have mentioned, you need to find out why that overflow pan is not draining and clear that issue up. And like already mentioned, hook a hose to the drain that will be near the bottom of the water heater and drain it outside the house.
It will have to be done anyway for the plumbers to take out and replace with a new water heater. Water weighs just over 8 lbs. a gallon, and if that is a 40 gallon heater, you're looking at 320+ lbs. just in water, plus the weight of the heater to move.
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Posted on 9/2/19 at 12:33 pm to jflsufan
Same exact thing happened to me two weeks ago. Thankfully not on a weekend though. Plumber came said the heater was shot. Of course my wife insisted on replacing it with a tankless bc it’s more expensive.
Posted on 9/2/19 at 12:42 pm to Korkstand
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Korkstand
Good job sir, had picture of what to stay away from, good description of what to do, helped this man out really well.
Posted on 9/2/19 at 12:51 pm to windshieldman
Yes. Can’t thank you guys enough. Great advice.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 1:44 pm to jflsufan
Finally got a plumber out. Quoted me $1700 to remove old water heater and install a Rheem 50 gallon tall gas water heater. Price involves about $200 worth of things to bring “up to code”. So the water heater is $589 + $200 for code stuff the. The rest is installation and tax. I should also add that the water heater is in the attic so that added some cost to the install.
Went through Home Depot and they contracted Central Plumbing. Am I getting raked over the coals on this price? I was expecting something closer to $1000.
Went through Home Depot and they contracted Central Plumbing. Am I getting raked over the coals on this price? I was expecting something closer to $1000.
This post was edited on 9/3/19 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 9/3/19 at 2:00 pm to jflsufan
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Finally got a plumber out. Quoted me $1700 to remove old water heater and install a Rheem 50 gallon tall gas water heater. Price involves about $200 worth of things to bring “up to code”. So the water heater is $589 + $200 for code stuff
Dang. Sounds high for about $1K in labor. My BIL is a master plumber and he told me going rate for a master plumber nowadays is $100-150 per hour. Even with a helper and getting it into the attic and the old one out, that seems like a lot of hours in labor. Maybe charging you for “pain and suffering” having to work in a 130 F attic.
Interested in what needed to be brought up to code.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 2:10 pm to CrawDude
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Interested in what needed to be brought up to code.
Add gas drip leg and insulate risers in attic.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 2:47 pm to jflsufan
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Add gas drip leg and insulate risers in attic.
Thanks, I’ll look into that. BTW, I’ve got 2 gas water heaters in the attic 25 years old and I’ve know I need to be proactive and replace them so as not to incur the problem you are dealing with. Your post is just a good reminder for me to get on this. I plan to purchase them and get friends to help me get them in the attic and then I’ll get my BIL to hook them up. He’s just retired out of state, but comes to LA fairly often for post-retirement plumbing jobs for previous clients. I watched him install a water heater once for our in-laws - took no more than an hour.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 3:02 pm to CrawDude
Yeah if I wasn’t in such a pinch and need to get replace ASAP because of no hot water I would shop it or do something different. I am sure this price is high but what I am trying to see is if the price is $200-$300 high or $700 high. I will pay an extra couple of hundred to get it done right away but I will wait a day or two if I can get it done closer to $1000.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 3:20 pm to jflsufan
Of course others will hopefully weigh on pricing relative to labor to have one installed in an attic, and I know HD has to get a cut of the profit as well, but I find hard to believe it would require more 3 hours of labor total to do this job, it’s just a straight forward swap out with minimal connections to be made, hard to believe that labor would approach $1K. Seems you should be able to have it done closer to $1k total than $1,700 total.
This post was edited on 9/4/19 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 9/3/19 at 6:18 pm to jflsufan
$1700 is high. I paid $950 total for an AC Smith but mine had easy access. Attic sounds like a PIA
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