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Help me make a MSM Turf cocktail
Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:21 am
Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:21 am
Down here in south Louisiana and trying to convert a pasture to a bermuda yard. I have lots of bermuda and a lot of weeds. My goal is to broadcast MSM Turf and something else to try and catch the weeds that MSM doesn't get. I am working on identifying them all so this may be a bit premature. I've applied one dose of MSM already and noticing some weeds dying off, but I have crabgrass, torpedo grass, dallisgrass, and some other mystery weed still growing.
I am consider a MSM + Quinclorac cocktail for my next application. Any other additives or mixes to consider? Trying to get the most weeds possible.
Appreciate the help!
I am consider a MSM + Quinclorac cocktail for my next application. Any other additives or mixes to consider? Trying to get the most weeds possible.
Appreciate the help!
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:23 am to PureBlood
Dallisgrass and torpedograss are tough to deal with. MSMA will help with dallisgrass, but I have no experience with that. Quinclorac will help with torpedograss, but will have to spray multiple applications.
I’d glyphosate the dallisgrass and let the Bermuda fill in. You can also use a paint brush and brush the leaves to not harm surrounding grass if you want.
MSM Turf should have killed the crabgrass, might just need another application. Add a surfactant for your next application, will help.
I’d glyphosate the dallisgrass and let the Bermuda fill in. You can also use a paint brush and brush the leaves to not harm surrounding grass if you want.
MSM Turf should have killed the crabgrass, might just need another application. Add a surfactant for your next application, will help.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:26 am to PureBlood
Sorry forgot to answer your main question. You’re definitely on the right track, I’ve mixed Quinclorac and MSM Turf with a surfactant in the past and had great results.
Mowing often will help tremendously if you have the time.
Mowing often will help tremendously if you have the time.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:32 am to Tifway419
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:41 am to Ziggy
Yep that’ll work. Any non-ionic surfactant, doesn’t have to be that specific one if there’s cheaper options.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:45 am to Tifway419
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Yep that’ll work. Any non-ionic surfactant, doesn’t have to be that specific one if there’s cheaper options.
Roger that. Just getting into the world of lawn "maintenance" so all of this is new to me.
Appreciate all of the help.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:19 am to PureBlood
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I've applied one dose of MSM already and noticing some weeds dying off
How long ago? MSM turf is a slow burner, takes a few weeks if not 1 month+ to kill target weeds.
Agree with rec to Round Up the dallisgrass, surrounding bermuda should fill in pretty quickly especially now during growing season. Round up makes a gel if you wanna paint of the leaves instead of killing the whole area with spray.
Are you sure that you have torpedo? Pics would be helpful. If you do in fact have torpedo, my condolences.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:27 am to PureBlood
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If you do in fact have torpedo, my condolences.
True. If it's just a small spot here or there (not likely if it was a pasture with it), I have found success spraying with quinlorac or Drive XLR8 to get the leaves wet, then put a light dusting of the quinlorac granules over and around the area (apply like scattering pinches of salt), followed by a light spritz of the quinclorac to partly dissolve the granules. It took me over 15 yrs on a couple really small spots i had, to figure out that remedy. My thinking was to have that application kill what's above ground, and future rains to get it into the soil and roots. I finally got rid of it after all that time. It weakened the zoysia, but didn't kill it and leave bare spots like roundup would have, which doesn't work btw. Not practical for large areas though. Before that I had tried everything including straight 41% roundup. For a large area, I would probably try spraying with double or triple concentration quinclorac and be willing to sacrifice everything. It'll come back with round up alone.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 1:43 pm to PureBlood
Appreciate the responses. Working on some pictures.
I am assuming it's torpedo grass but not sure now. Big stolon runner looking thing. I see it in broadleaf lawns. Not sure what it be.
I did MSM Turf 2 weeks ago and I'm seeing alot of stuff browning up. Just wanted a good mix to catch the most possible down here. I'll mix with Hook adjuvant as well. Planning on spot spraying with MSMA for whatever survives the next application.
I am assuming it's torpedo grass but not sure now. Big stolon runner looking thing. I see it in broadleaf lawns. Not sure what it be.
I did MSM Turf 2 weeks ago and I'm seeing alot of stuff browning up. Just wanted a good mix to catch the most possible down here. I'll mix with Hook adjuvant as well. Planning on spot spraying with MSMA for whatever survives the next application.
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