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DIY Outdoor kitchen ideas and questions
Posted on 4/21/20 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 4/21/20 at 6:39 pm
I have a bunch of enough brick, access to granite, a Green Egg grill, a natural gas outlet and back patio.
I would like to throw together a simple outdoor kitchen but don’t want to have overkill or an underwhelming area. My patio gives me about 12’ of bricked wall that I can run a countertop along with a gas grill, my egg, and some prep area between the two.
My questions are:
1) Does anyone have a gas grill and an egg setup? If so, is it overkill? Do you end up neglecting one for the other? Which brand do you prefer?
2) If I chose to not put a gas grill in, does anyone have any other type of cooking surface in their outdoor kitchen; griddle or burners? Are they useful? Should I add a mini fridge?
3) I’d like to do this all myself and that would require me doing brick work. Should I build a wooden frame with concrete board to anchor bricks to or would mortaring the bricks to the existing brick wall be strong enoughv
4) Has anyone cut granite themselves? What did you use, how was it? I plan on only cutting squares and rectangles out of a large piece of granite.
Thanks for the info.
I would like to throw together a simple outdoor kitchen but don’t want to have overkill or an underwhelming area. My patio gives me about 12’ of bricked wall that I can run a countertop along with a gas grill, my egg, and some prep area between the two.
My questions are:
1) Does anyone have a gas grill and an egg setup? If so, is it overkill? Do you end up neglecting one for the other? Which brand do you prefer?
2) If I chose to not put a gas grill in, does anyone have any other type of cooking surface in their outdoor kitchen; griddle or burners? Are they useful? Should I add a mini fridge?
3) I’d like to do this all myself and that would require me doing brick work. Should I build a wooden frame with concrete board to anchor bricks to or would mortaring the bricks to the existing brick wall be strong enoughv
4) Has anyone cut granite themselves? What did you use, how was it? I plan on only cutting squares and rectangles out of a large piece of granite.
Thanks for the info.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 7:11 pm to Rossberg02
1. Countertop gas grills are what you’re looking for, more expensive than portable grills.
2. What do you want to cook outside? Griddle burgers, eggs, bacon, and pancakes are great. How often do you plan on doing this? If you want to cook a meal outside, you’ll want a burner or two for pot or pan cooking. Fridges are hit-or-miss. Some last a decade, some last 6 months.
3. Bricks under 3 feet high aren’t prone to verticals failure, best to do a double run if you’re not reinforcing/tying off. Otherwise treat it like a vernier and tie it off.
4. Plenty of granite cutting blades out there depending on the tools you have on hand, or what you’re willing to invest. If you have access to granite then those people will be willing to cut it for you.
Ultimately, you need to figure out what you want to cook outside and design from there. Be prepared to blow some money on a fridge, whether it’s a new one every year (like a dorm fridge), or you invest in a bada$$ one (not sure of TD rules).
Post some pics of your space. Plenty of DIY hacks for an Egg.
Final note, you’ll want a sink. That’s worth every penny you can spare.
2. What do you want to cook outside? Griddle burgers, eggs, bacon, and pancakes are great. How often do you plan on doing this? If you want to cook a meal outside, you’ll want a burner or two for pot or pan cooking. Fridges are hit-or-miss. Some last a decade, some last 6 months.
3. Bricks under 3 feet high aren’t prone to verticals failure, best to do a double run if you’re not reinforcing/tying off. Otherwise treat it like a vernier and tie it off.
4. Plenty of granite cutting blades out there depending on the tools you have on hand, or what you’re willing to invest. If you have access to granite then those people will be willing to cut it for you.
Ultimately, you need to figure out what you want to cook outside and design from there. Be prepared to blow some money on a fridge, whether it’s a new one every year (like a dorm fridge), or you invest in a bada$$ one (not sure of TD rules).
Post some pics of your space. Plenty of DIY hacks for an Egg.
Final note, you’ll want a sink. That’s worth every penny you can spare.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 7:38 pm to Goldbondage
If going the grill route, I planned on a Blaze, Bull, or Kitchenaid drop in.
I’d like to possibly cook breakfast, a gravy...not just the typical burger/steak/smoked meat.
I have a circular saw, table saw, chop saw, and a dual action rotatory tool that I think I can use a 4” blade. The granite is from a friend, not a company.
I do not have plumbing for a sink and even though I know it would be nice, I don’t want to go into plumbing that out.
I’ll post pics tomorrow of the area. Thanks again!
I’d like to possibly cook breakfast, a gravy...not just the typical burger/steak/smoked meat.
I have a circular saw, table saw, chop saw, and a dual action rotatory tool that I think I can use a 4” blade. The granite is from a friend, not a company.
I do not have plumbing for a sink and even though I know it would be nice, I don’t want to go into plumbing that out.
I’ll post pics tomorrow of the area. Thanks again!
Posted on 4/21/20 at 7:51 pm to Rossberg02
You have all the tools you need to cut granite, just keep the blade wet.
I’d shy away from kitchen aid, I’ve seen some drops in quality. A griddle and burner (or two) will be your best friend. Forget everything else you want and make the sink happen, it won’t be as hard as masonry or leveling your countertop.
If you have money for Bull and the skill to plumb natural gas, you’ve got it made. A fan or exhaust should be considered if you’re attaching to the house and will have poor ventilation.
I’d shy away from kitchen aid, I’ve seen some drops in quality. A griddle and burner (or two) will be your best friend. Forget everything else you want and make the sink happen, it won’t be as hard as masonry or leveling your countertop.
If you have money for Bull and the skill to plumb natural gas, you’ve got it made. A fan or exhaust should be considered if you’re attaching to the house and will have poor ventilation.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 10:37 pm to Rossberg02
quote:
1) Does anyone have a gas grill and an egg setup? If so, is it overkill? Do you end up neglecting one for the other? Which brand do you prefer?
Yes. Blaze Grill and Primo Oval XL.
Gas grill and side burner, Primo Oval XL, ice maker, refrigerator, deep dish sink with garbage disposal, hot water heater and instant hot water dispenser are all included, along with a 9 ft. granite slab and cypress ceiling.
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4) Has anyone cut granite themselves? What did you use, how was it? I plan on only cutting squares and rectangles out of a large piece of granite.
No, but just posting to give you an idea. And for the record, I don’t trust myself cutting Sheetrock, so Granite was definitely out of the question.
Exterior view:
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 4/21/20 at 10:42 pm to Rossberg02
I'm about to do an outdoor kitchen round 2. Sold first house, things I learned:
I really like to charcoal grill. I'd rather have a built in Weber and a green egg than spend the 2k on a built in gas. My wife wants one to cook hotdogs on for kids.
I'm going to get a power burner. The side burner that is cheap would barely boil water. They are for keeping things like baked beans hot IMO. The power burners go to 60k BTU and is about 1k. I'm going to do that for boiling seafood, cooking chili,, brewing beer and roasting coffee beans. Will get use out of it.
I like shelving more than the cut out doors. I like a place to put big bags of charcoal and big stuff. Simple is better sometimes.
Basically what saying as it relates to your space, if it was for me, I'd do a charcoal grill, charcoal smoker, shelving, power burner and have everything I needed.
I really like to charcoal grill. I'd rather have a built in Weber and a green egg than spend the 2k on a built in gas. My wife wants one to cook hotdogs on for kids.
I'm going to get a power burner. The side burner that is cheap would barely boil water. They are for keeping things like baked beans hot IMO. The power burners go to 60k BTU and is about 1k. I'm going to do that for boiling seafood, cooking chili,, brewing beer and roasting coffee beans. Will get use out of it.
I like shelving more than the cut out doors. I like a place to put big bags of charcoal and big stuff. Simple is better sometimes.
Basically what saying as it relates to your space, if it was for me, I'd do a charcoal grill, charcoal smoker, shelving, power burner and have everything I needed.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 10:16 am to Rossberg02
This is the space that will be used.
I really don’t want to spend on a sink. That and I think I’d be pushing it with space.
After really looking at it, if I extending counter area to the electrical outlet for a mini fridge, I would be covering up a good section of that window under the tv. So that might be out of the question. Only idea would be to leave a section of the new brick to run a cord through but I think that would like janky.
For my personal use, a griddle with a burner and my egg would do the trick. However, when I sell, the buyer might not have an egg and then they would have a ODK without a gas grill.
I was worried about needing a hood vent. I do have a ceiling fan for the patio area where it will be build. Has anyone gone without ventilation and used the ceiling fan idea?
Posted on 4/22/20 at 10:17 am to Will Cover
Immaculate! Definitely will make a better area on the next house we build!
Posted on 4/22/20 at 10:46 am to Rossberg02
I wouldn’t fool with a hood. I would think outside it would be difficult for them to pull all the smoke.
I’d put your grill as close to the end of that patio as you can and then install some kind of directional fan to blow the smoke away from the house/patio.
I’d put your grill as close to the end of that patio as you can and then install some kind of directional fan to blow the smoke away from the house/patio.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 11:25 am
Posted on 4/22/20 at 11:16 am to tilco
Also, with natural gas, I know it tends to rise. How many vents should I install on the sides of the counter? One closest to the grill or one on each side?
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