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Discovered simple cure for Dallis Grass. It is your worst lawn nightmare. And doesn't die

Posted on 9/2/20 at 3:09 pm
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 3:09 pm
annually like crabgrass. Googled all these experts and every single one said wait til Bermuda is in dormancy and apply carefully a now outlawed for home use weed killer. But then I found this guy who said Weed B Gon with crabgrass control will do the job. But several people chimed in and said they had tried it to zero effect. But I took a shot 8 days ago and saturated hell out of the huge 15 X 25' area that was overran. For the most part the Bermuda is not affected and glory be, seemingly almost all the Dallis grass stopped growing like a weed, then started turning yellowish and now appears to be sick and maybe, just maybe DYING!

If that didn't get it I'mma hook that water hose up again and take my chances with a 2nd spray. Either way I've gotta put some top soil down and over seed the Bermuda for my sanity. To get fresh, completely healthy grass down and thicken the area before more Dallis grass fills the empty spaces.

Take my advice and don't let kids' grandma put a baby pool out there in your back yard and play water fall games all summer with a 2 year old boy who will run for hours. I knew it was happening so I'm guilty as well. I was digging it till it just got completely out of hand with mowing/ spreading. And if you have a depression where water collects, level it off.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Take my advice and don't let kids' grandma put a baby pool out there in your back yard and play water fall games all summer with a 2 year old boy who will run for hours. I

Seriously, grandma entertaining a toddler is a helluva lot more important than not having weeds.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 3:20 pm to
Would the same apply for St Aug?

I am starting to believe that Dallis grass is immortal. And everytime you try to kill it four more patches pop up.

I don't think a "simple" cure exist, but I'm willing to try it. I just picked up a weed hound at lowes and I'm about to battle that shite out every day until somebody wins this war.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 4:04 pm to
weed be gone is just 24d mainly. he stunkted the dallisgrass... he didnt kill it.

the best sure fire way i have found is to put half and half water Glyphosate concentrate in a dixie cup, put some gloves on and a small foam brush and go paint as many of the leaves as you can find. in 2 days you will see them dying and do it again and again and again until they all are gone.
This post was edited on 9/2/20 at 4:06 pm
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6205 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 4:23 pm to
It has been known that Weed B Gon with crabgrass control would damage Dallisgrass. Quinchlorac is the active ingredient that controls crabgrass. It also damages Dallisgrass. The Dallisgrass will green right back up. You can over apply it and kill it but it will kill your bermuda too.

You can't use it on St Aug.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5267 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

Would the same apply for St Aug?

No - the Quinchlorac in that formulation will kill St Augustine.

This is as good of article on options for “controlling” Dallisgrass as I’ve read. LINK. Pay particular attention to the emphasis and importance on timing of herbicide application, not just the suggested herbicides.

Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 4:45 pm to
I don't owe an explanation to a little jaybird who knows freaking zero about my wife and I and our relationship with family. So all I can say is frick off and dare say you smart off on an internet gardening site since a coward can show his arse and get away with it.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

You can't use it on St Aug.


How difficult would it be to transfer my yard from St Aug to Bermuda, without resodding the entire yard? I believe when I first started either you or Craw said it looked like St Aug and Bermuda mixed in with all the weeds.

It just seems like Bermuda is much easier to control everything else. With the height I cut my grass, I'm not sure if there is any bermuda left or not.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 4:54 pm to
I wondered about that since only the crabgrass version is recommended. Therefore the additive aimed at the crabgrass also does the Dallis. I'm going to observe for a time and if dying is not coming I'm going for the gusto and shooting it again then proceed with what I've already planned if everything dies. Overseed on fresh top soil. I'll keep posting.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6205 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 5:41 pm to
Bring in some dirt that has take all patch, top dress the st aug, overseed with Arden 15 bermuda and water like hell.
Posted by Darla Hood
Near that place by that other place
Member since Aug 2012
13943 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

I don't owe an explanation to a little jaybird who knows freaking zero about my wife and I and our relationship with family. So all I can say is frick off and dare say you smart off on an internet gardening site since a coward can show his arse and get away with it.

Overreact much? And are you new to the internet? (Plus, she's right. And your arse is showing.)
This post was edited on 9/2/20 at 9:16 pm
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 3:01 am to
So you "over react" to an INTERNET post yourself to slam another who reacted to an internet post. HE SHE IT (say it quickly) smarted off to a light hearted way to explain why the Dallis Grass took root, little feet foot traffic. I know this is the 21st century where everybody is a bad arse sideline smartass but somethings are off limits. To me that is insulting my family. Even if it is by one of you internet hall monitors. I've lived too long to be insulted by jackasses who should be doing the wash or cleaning out a garage instead.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 6:08 am to
H&G board drama. Now this is something you don't see every day. Add this to the list of things that happen in 2020.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17718 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 8:43 am to
So is celcius w/revolver or MSMA the only cures here with multiple applciations in the fall and then spring?

What about MSM Turf?
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6205 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 8:52 am to
MSMA can be used on Dallisgrass any time it is growing. Celsius/Revolver/Sedgehammer (otherwise known as Tribute Total) has to be used in early fall. You will need to mix it ammonium sulfate and methylated seed oil for best results.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17718 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 8:55 am to
quote:

MSMA can be used on Dallisgrass any time it is growing. Celsius/Revolver/Sedgehammer (otherwise known as Tribute Total) has to be used in early fall. You will need to mix it ammonium sulfate and methylated seed oil for best results.


Thanks Ronk.

Have finally filled in all the holes that came from digging out a bunch of growths and now I've got it popping up elsewhere.

Strongly considering just cutting bait and nuking the yard and sodding next year but the handful of carpety patches of bermuda that I've cultivated are oh so satisfying after a nice low mow.

Want to win this battle but its taking a damn toll on me.
Posted by FishinTygah84
LA
Member since Dec 2013
1976 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:11 am to
the best sure fire way i have found is to put half and half water Glyphosate concentrate in a dixie cup, put some gloves on and a small foam brush and go paint as many of the leaves as you can find. in 2 days you will see them dying and do it again and again and again until they all are gone.

this is what ron stahan from LSU recommends as well... also works well for torpedo grass
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17718 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:12 am to
Will that work on the rhizomes though?

I've done similar and they still just want to grow back in a few weeks.
Posted by FishinTygah84
LA
Member since Dec 2013
1976 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 1:51 pm to
i assume so. It has worked for me. just takes a few applications. only time will tell tho
Posted by Bawcephus
Member since Jul 2018
2747 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 4:24 pm to
MSMA and spot treat. Sit back and watch it KILL.
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