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Compost bin question

Posted on 6/14/19 at 6:55 am
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 6:55 am
First time doing one, Developed maggots, read that it is actually good bc they help break down scraps. Rained really hard one day and it got a little too wet, covered the holes on the lid and only left holes on the sides

Is this soil ok to use in a vegetable garden or planting plants etc? Or will the maggots kill them.


TIA
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12131 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:09 am to
When the compost has an earthy smell, no bugs, looks like soil then use it. Good compost is the best thing for your veggies. As soon as I add it the earthworms gravitate to it. There’s a reason.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15020 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:11 am to
What stuff are you putting in your compost pile that are developing maggots? I've had a compost pile for years and have never had maggots in it-----ants, lots of earthworms and the occasional grub worms, but never maggots.

You aren't by any chance putting meat or meat byproducts in it? If so, don't.
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
10799 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:46 am to
Staying away from meat and dairy

Just food scraps, bread veggies fruit egg shells etc

It got too wet, maybe that attracted them? I read online to put like juice in it to kill the maggots, but that might also kill other microorganisms
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15020 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Staying away from meat and dairy


Yeah, that is recommended. From your first post I'll assume you have your compost in some sort of tumbler or bin. Mine is directly on the ground in a pile that I turn about once a week. The only thing I ever had that I didn't want in my compost was the time I tossed a lot of wood shavings in it and wound up with the start of a termite colony. I just used a lot of boiling water using my seafood boil pot to get rid of them. I know I destroyed a lot of beneficial microbes and worms, but it beat having termites making a nest.

I've never been a fan of those containers for compost
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:04 pm to
Sure you can use it - your plants will be fine.
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
10799 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:10 pm to
Yes it’s a bin. I have a dog that would dig the pile if it was in the ground, so I can’t do that

I made the mistake of drilling holes in the lid and the sides

Thinking about dumping it and starting over, covering the lid holes and just leaving the sides
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5264 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

Just food scraps, bread veggies fruit egg shells etc

Since you are using food scraps and you have a bin, have you thought about “vermicomposting Composting worms - not the same as “earthworms”. I’m doing this and it’s amazing how quickly they compost food scraps, when it’s warm.

Ordered mine from Uncle Jim’s Worm Farm LINK.

You’ll only need to buy them once. Sounds like the way you are set up, you’d just have to buy and add the worms to the bin and keep adding food scraps. You can add strips of shredded newspaper (moisten it) if you run short of food scraps.

As I recall i ordered 1,000 red worm mix package, it was 5 years ago ago or so.
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
10799 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:50 pm to
Thanks! Will try those worms

You think i should try and remove maggots, or just add worms?
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15020 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 2:16 pm to
Air is a good thing for helping with the decomposition. That is why I will turn my pile at least once a week, if not more.

Too much water is not a good thing, but then again, neither is completely drying out. There has to be a happy medium.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5264 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

You think i should try and remove maggots, or just add worms?


What kind of maggots are you seeing - white maggots from house flies or some larger brownish-yellow maggots? Several days ago I saw larger brownish “maggots”/insect larvae of some type in my composting worm bin that I didn’t recognize - was going to take a photo and send to an entomologist at LSU I know for an ID. I’ll check later to see if the maggots are still there.

Anyway, I’d think in this heat the maggots would metamorphose into adults and disappear quickly. To my knowledge I don’t think maggots would hurt worms. So I’d wouldn’t be concerned placing your order for worms within a few days.

And as other posters have recommended you want to keep the bin moist - like a wrung out sponge - not really wet nor excessively dry. I have holes in the top and sides of my 2 bins, and most importantly the bottom of the bin to allow for excess water to drain. Elevate your compost bin several or more inches off the ground to insure excess moisture drains adequately. You won’t need to turn the material in the bin with composting worms, they are like miners, they do that for you.
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 8:16 pm
Posted by bovine1
Walnut Ridge,AR via Tallulah,LA
Member since Dec 2004
1276 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 7:16 pm to
My worm bins get soldier fly larvae every summer. They hurt nothing. I wouldn't want housefly maggots because I wouldn't want to propogate houseflies. I didn't know what a soldier fly was til I got my worm bins and I never see one outside my bins.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5264 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

My worm bins get soldier fly larvae every summer.

Just googled a photo of soldier fly larvae and that’s is what I have in my worm composting bin. Good to know they don’t hurt the composting worms, just complete for the same food resources while they’re present. Thanks for sharing that info.
Posted by bovine1
Walnut Ridge,AR via Tallulah,LA
Member since Dec 2004
1276 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:49 pm to
You're welcome. I like vermicomposting. I harvested one of my bins yesterday and got 7 gallons of castings.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12131 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:53 pm to
Bovine, do you add castings straight to your garden or have you tried making tea using bags in a bucket with aeration? I have about 3 gallon bags of castings
Posted by bovine1
Walnut Ridge,AR via Tallulah,LA
Member since Dec 2004
1276 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 7:11 am to
I usually use them straight. I put some around the roots when transplanting. I also topdress around the plants. My soil is red clay so I need to add a lot of organic matter to keep it loose and allow water in and hold water. In the winter if I have extra I'll topdress my beds and plant tillage radishes. The only fertilizer I use besides castings is cottonseed meal. Tea is a great idea. I may start doing that for watering my container herbs. My beds are so high in organic matter that I rarely water.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5264 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:25 am to
Bovine, what’s your go-to method for harvesting the castings/compost while separating the worms?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53570 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:22 am to
Anyone who is interested in composting should pick up The Rodale Book of Composting. It will answer most any question you will have.
Posted by bovine1
Walnut Ridge,AR via Tallulah,LA
Member since Dec 2004
1276 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 2:37 pm to
In the past I emptied the bin on a sheet of visqueen in piles. The worms will go to the bottom fleeing light. You can separate them pretty easily then. If I'm in a hurry I just get my overflow bin and transfer all the uneaten food and newspaper bedding over to it. Then I take a garden trowel and separate the worms and castings by hand. This is a much quicker method. You will miss a few worms but they end up with your castings which is good for your soil. A healthy bin will have so many worms it doesn't matter. You will also see a lot of egg pods during cold weather harvesting.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5264 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

In the past I emptied the bin on a sheet of visqueen in piles. The worms will go to the bottom fleeing light. You can separate them pretty easily then. If I'm in a hurry I just get my overflow bin and transfer all the uneaten food and newspaper bedding over to it. Then I take a garden trowel and separate the worms and castings by hand. This is a much quicker method. You will miss a few worms but they end up with your castings which is good for your soil. A healthy bin will have so many worms it doesn't matter. You will also see a lot of egg pods during cold weather harvesting.


Many thanks
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