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Calculate total square footage for irregular lot?

Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:57 pm
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38512 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:57 pm


I’ve looked at a website or two and received a different total lot square footage each time. Most likely user input error.

Anyone that has more knowledge than me willing to give this a shot?
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13808 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 10:16 pm to
Break it into rectangles and triangles and total the area of each. Based on the drawing you will need an engineers scale and measure most of it. The circle part will be tricky. Not much help but this is how I do it.
This post was edited on 7/4/19 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 10:47 pm to
quote:

Break it into rectangles and triangles


This.

Or you can use Google Earth polygon feature to get area.


Just for fun I will do both ways.

AREA

Broken into 3 triangles and 2 rectangles with all the given information.



Lg tri: .5(93.62*112.48) = 5265.18
Lg tri hyp: 146.344
Sml tri: .5(((146.344/2)-21)*(24.583+89.292))) = 2970.54
Sml tri: ~2970.54
Rect: 21*139.58 = 2931.18
Rect: 21*134.64 = 2827.44

(Some perimeters had to be converted into decimals.)

Total: 16964.88 sq ft or 0.389 acres

Here's Google Earth go at it.

I made the long leg as a path to make sure I could eyeball the perimeter to scale.



Got within 30 feet of the actual perimeter and pretty close to acreage!




Posted by Got Heeem
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
3631 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 10:58 pm to
Nice job!
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 11:01 pm to
If someone has CAD they can load the dimension and coords in and area it.

Or go to zillow or the google map area finder.
Posted by X82ndTiger
USA
Member since Sep 2004
2464 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:13 am to
Build a bigger storage shed!
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38656 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:48 am to
I can input that into AutoCAD tomorrow. I dont think I will need the delta on the radius but we will see
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38512 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 6:42 am to
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Pectus


Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38512 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 6:42 am to
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Zappas Stache


Looking forward to it.

Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38512 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 6:49 am to
quote:

Build a bigger storage shed!



We did this instead, about four years ago.

This post was edited on 7/5/19 at 6:50 am
Posted by rodnreel
South La.
Member since Apr 2011
1314 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 7:31 am to
I am a recently retired surveyor in several states who no longer has access to software to calculate the acreage but do have a few comments about the survey plat. While you can get close to the acreage the plat is missing some important information to calculate an accurate area.

Most states have similar minimum standards for property boundary surveys and this plat does not meet those standards. A few states do allow a "mortgage" survey which is used only by the lender and is useless for any other purpose.

If it is a boundary survey, problems I see are as follows:
1. A straight line consist of two parts, a bearing and a distance. The lines along the side of the proposed house have bearings and distance but the rear lines only have a distance.

2. To accurately draw out a curve several parts of a curve are required. In Louisiana they are chord bearing, chord distance, arc and radius. I see some blacked out information so it may be there.

3. The professional land surveyor shall set
monuments at all boundary or lot corners, including points
of curvature unless already monuments exist
. These monuments have to be noted and described on the plat. You have five corners and only one monument listed.

This plat appears to be done by someone other than a licensed surveyor which is also against board rules.






Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38656 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 11:18 am to
quote:

. To accurately draw out a curve several parts of a curve are required. In Louisiana they are chord bearing, chord distance, arc and radius. I see some blacked out information so it may be there.


This. I am imputing into Cad and saw the C3 data for the radius was blacked out. Do you see this info anywhere?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:01 pm to
Radius looks to be roughly 35'
Posted by Antib551
Houma, LA
Member since Dec 2018
914 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:49 pm to


Like everyone said, the major curve parts are missing along with the bearings along the back lines. For this, I assumed that they were north and east based off the north arrow orientation. Then I just drew an arc from point to point and played with the radius until I got close on arc length.
Posted by rodnreel
South La.
Member since Apr 2011
1314 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 2:14 pm to
While you are close, every radius along a cul de sac I have seen is an even foot and usually a multiple of five. Examples would be 35', 40', 45', 50'.

Surveyors don't want to be calculating things using odd numbers for a radius.

Just a note to the cad jockeys, all distances are rounded off to two decimals and sq. foot doesn't have any decimals.
This post was edited on 7/5/19 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 2:40 pm to
I did goooooood!

Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 2:49 pm to
You guys saying there's no bearings are missing things...

d ' " is degree minute second.

Then those are on then angled perimeter lines from the arc.
Posted by rodnreel
South La.
Member since Apr 2011
1314 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 2:57 pm to
Petcus no one said all the bearing were missing, from my post above.

A straight line consist of two parts, a bearing and a distance. The lines along the side of the proposed house have bearings and distance but the rear lines only have a distance.

Tell me sir what is the "d" or the bearing for the two rear lines.
This post was edited on 7/5/19 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Antib551
Houma, LA
Member since Dec 2018
914 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 3:04 pm to
I totally understand and agree with you. I am an LSI going to sit for my state test in October. To really calculate this, we need more info.

I just drew this up based off what I saw. I agree the radius is very odd, but that was the only way I could get remotely close to the 50.25, assuming the back lines are 90°.

I'm guessing this is a snippet of OP's lot from the subdivision plat just to show his layout. I hope the subdivision plat shows the curve table and bearing along back lines.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 3:25 pm to
2 things:

Are these drawn to scale?

and That is a 90 degree angle in the upper right corner because of the North arrow.
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