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Calculate total square footage for irregular lot?
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:57 pm
I’ve looked at a website or two and received a different total lot square footage each time. Most likely user input error.
Anyone that has more knowledge than me willing to give this a shot?
Posted on 7/4/19 at 10:16 pm to Will Cover
Break it into rectangles and triangles and total the area of each. Based on the drawing you will need an engineers scale and measure most of it. The circle part will be tricky. Not much help but this is how I do it.
This post was edited on 7/4/19 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 7/4/19 at 10:47 pm to Will Cover
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Break it into rectangles and triangles
This.
Or you can use Google Earth polygon feature to get area.
Just for fun I will do both ways.
AREA
Broken into 3 triangles and 2 rectangles with all the given information.
Lg tri: .5(93.62*112.48) = 5265.18
Lg tri hyp: 146.344
Sml tri: .5(((146.344/2)-21)*(24.583+89.292))) = 2970.54
Sml tri: ~2970.54
Rect: 21*139.58 = 2931.18
Rect: 21*134.64 = 2827.44
(Some perimeters had to be converted into decimals.)
Total: 16964.88 sq ft or 0.389 acres
Here's Google Earth go at it.
I made the long leg as a path to make sure I could eyeball the perimeter to scale.
Got within 30 feet of the actual perimeter and pretty close to acreage!
Posted on 7/4/19 at 11:01 pm to Pectus
If someone has CAD they can load the dimension and coords in and area it.
Or go to zillow or the google map area finder.
Or go to zillow or the google map area finder.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:13 am to Will Cover
Build a bigger storage shed!
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:48 am to Will Cover
I can input that into AutoCAD tomorrow. I dont think I will need the delta on the radius but we will see
Posted on 7/5/19 at 6:42 am to Zappas Stache
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Zappas Stache
Looking forward to it.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 6:49 am to X82ndTiger
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Build a bigger storage shed!
We did this instead, about four years ago.
This post was edited on 7/5/19 at 6:50 am
Posted on 7/5/19 at 7:31 am to Will Cover
I am a recently retired surveyor in several states who no longer has access to software to calculate the acreage but do have a few comments about the survey plat. While you can get close to the acreage the plat is missing some important information to calculate an accurate area.
Most states have similar minimum standards for property boundary surveys and this plat does not meet those standards. A few states do allow a "mortgage" survey which is used only by the lender and is useless for any other purpose.
If it is a boundary survey, problems I see are as follows:
1. A straight line consist of two parts, a bearing and a distance. The lines along the side of the proposed house have bearings and distance but the rear lines only have a distance.
2. To accurately draw out a curve several parts of a curve are required. In Louisiana they are chord bearing, chord distance, arc and radius. I see some blacked out information so it may be there.
3. The professional land surveyor shall set
monuments at all boundary or lot corners, including points
of curvature unless already monuments exist. These monuments have to be noted and described on the plat. You have five corners and only one monument listed.
This plat appears to be done by someone other than a licensed surveyor which is also against board rules.
Most states have similar minimum standards for property boundary surveys and this plat does not meet those standards. A few states do allow a "mortgage" survey which is used only by the lender and is useless for any other purpose.
If it is a boundary survey, problems I see are as follows:
1. A straight line consist of two parts, a bearing and a distance. The lines along the side of the proposed house have bearings and distance but the rear lines only have a distance.
2. To accurately draw out a curve several parts of a curve are required. In Louisiana they are chord bearing, chord distance, arc and radius. I see some blacked out information so it may be there.
3. The professional land surveyor shall set
monuments at all boundary or lot corners, including points
of curvature unless already monuments exist. These monuments have to be noted and described on the plat. You have five corners and only one monument listed.
This plat appears to be done by someone other than a licensed surveyor which is also against board rules.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 11:18 am to rodnreel
quote:
. To accurately draw out a curve several parts of a curve are required. In Louisiana they are chord bearing, chord distance, arc and radius. I see some blacked out information so it may be there.
This. I am imputing into Cad and saw the C3 data for the radius was blacked out. Do you see this info anywhere?
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:01 pm to Zappas Stache
Radius looks to be roughly 35'
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:49 pm to Will Cover
Like everyone said, the major curve parts are missing along with the bearings along the back lines. For this, I assumed that they were north and east based off the north arrow orientation. Then I just drew an arc from point to point and played with the radius until I got close on arc length.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 2:14 pm to Antib551
While you are close, every radius along a cul de sac I have seen is an even foot and usually a multiple of five. Examples would be 35', 40', 45', 50'.
Surveyors don't want to be calculating things using odd numbers for a radius.
Just a note to the cad jockeys, all distances are rounded off to two decimals and sq. foot doesn't have any decimals.
Surveyors don't want to be calculating things using odd numbers for a radius.
Just a note to the cad jockeys, all distances are rounded off to two decimals and sq. foot doesn't have any decimals.
This post was edited on 7/5/19 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 7/5/19 at 2:49 pm to rodnreel
You guys saying there's no bearings are missing things...
d ' " is degree minute second.
Then those are on then angled perimeter lines from the arc.
d ' " is degree minute second.
Then those are on then angled perimeter lines from the arc.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 2:57 pm to Pectus
Petcus no one said all the bearing were missing, from my post above.
A straight line consist of two parts, a bearing and a distance. The lines along the side of the proposed house have bearings and distance but the rear lines only have a distance.
Tell me sir what is the "d" or the bearing for the two rear lines.
A straight line consist of two parts, a bearing and a distance. The lines along the side of the proposed house have bearings and distance but the rear lines only have a distance.
Tell me sir what is the "d" or the bearing for the two rear lines.
This post was edited on 7/5/19 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 7/5/19 at 3:04 pm to rodnreel
I totally understand and agree with you. I am an LSI going to sit for my state test in October. To really calculate this, we need more info.
I just drew this up based off what I saw. I agree the radius is very odd, but that was the only way I could get remotely close to the 50.25, assuming the back lines are 90°.
I'm guessing this is a snippet of OP's lot from the subdivision plat just to show his layout. I hope the subdivision plat shows the curve table and bearing along back lines.
I just drew this up based off what I saw. I agree the radius is very odd, but that was the only way I could get remotely close to the 50.25, assuming the back lines are 90°.
I'm guessing this is a snippet of OP's lot from the subdivision plat just to show his layout. I hope the subdivision plat shows the curve table and bearing along back lines.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 3:25 pm to rodnreel
2 things:
Are these drawn to scale?
and That is a 90 degree angle in the upper right corner because of the North arrow.
Are these drawn to scale?
and That is a 90 degree angle in the upper right corner because of the North arrow.
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