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Anyone able to revive a neglected Crepe Myrtle?

Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:56 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25949 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:56 am
Bought a house last year in South Louisiana. We took down a lot of the old landscaping, but decided not to cut down the neglected Crepe Myrtle in the front yard even though it looked kind of thinned and stressed. We think it's at least 30-40 years old - possibly older. We used the peg fertilizer (along the drip line every 6') in early October and trimmed it back in August 2022.

The tree in question is definitely slower to come back than the same type of trees in the back yard. The leaves that are coming back seem to be sort of yellowish/red. So I'm starting to worry that maybe this one isn't going to revive easily since it still looks dormant. A lot of other ones in my area are already very leafy.

Should I fertilize again now? Or wait until it has more leaves/flowers in April?

Noticing some Spanish Moss on it too. Should I try to remove that? Not sure if that can be harmful to these things. I see a lot of trees around here with it, but none of those trees seem to be this stressed.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
11432 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 9:01 am to
I would leave it alone and give it some time.

I have oak trees that are leafed out and others that have not just yet.

Crepes seem to thrive on neglect.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25949 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 9:11 am to
Thanks for the response!

Good point about the oaks. I have one of those and an old pecan that is slower to leaf too. But I am assuming those things are tanks. Fertilized those too last October. But they were healthy AF last summer.

This is the CM in question. It’s looking pretty sick for late March at this latitude. There is a fungus of some type on one of the branches that is apparently Spanish moss. I can try to get a better picture.

Can Spanish Moss screw these up?

This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 9:17 am
Posted by Ping Pong
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Member since Aug 2014
5575 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 9:34 am to
Crepe Myrtles have thin bark, which you can scratch with your fingernail to to check the health of your tree. If the bark underneath is green, your tree is still alive.

You can remove most of the Spanish moss with your hands. I'm not sure if its harmful to crepe myrtles, but it wont hurt to remove it.

How do the leaves look? You mentioned yellow and red. Are there any spots? If so, it could be Cercospora infections, which wont kill a crepe myrtle, but it will reduce foliage. That's quite common in South LA.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 9:36 am
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
16803 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 10:12 am to
quote:

fungus of some type on one of the branches that is apparently Spanish moss


I don't see any Spanish moss in that photo.


This is the popular Spanish moss:



This is that nasty Ball moss junk:





Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25949 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 10:28 am to
quote:

This is that nasty Ball moss junk:



How do I get rid of that? I think you might be right based on google pictures of Ball Moss.

Can this tree be saved?
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 10:40 am
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16898 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Noticing some Spanish Moss on it too.


Are you sure it’s Spanish Moss and not Ball Moss (Google it)? If it’s ball moss that would explain why the tree is suffering for sure.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
16803 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 10:44 am to

https://www.wafb.com/2020/02/11/how-get-rid-invasive-ball-moss-plant/

quote:

You want to use two parts water to one-part baking soda. That would be five pounds to ten gallons of water and spray it on the ball moss," Kirk-Ballard said. The spray can be applied using a pressurized sprayer to reach each ball of moss.

Huffstickler says if homeowners use the spray method, they should wash off surroundings vegetation so other plants will not dry out.

He says they’re adding ball moss upkeep across the city-parish to the general maintenance program. The best time to treat the ball moss is during the winter months when leaves are off the trees, according to Huffstickler.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25949 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 10:48 am to
Interesting. I will try the baking soda method.

Second question…is this moss here because of less dense foliage? Or is it causing less dense foliage?

If it’s there because of a less dense foliage then there might be an underlying issue like the Cercospora issue that Ping Pong mentioned. Guess I should treat for both.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 10:52 am
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
707 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 1:49 pm to
That's a nice tree. I would cut it back to where branches are about an inch to half inch diameter.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
11432 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 2:38 pm to
Can't tell from pictures, but you may be dealing with lichen.

LINK

Your tree looks good.
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3235 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:25 pm to
you can prune a crepe myrtle any time of year and it will help it flourish. I've pruned them for 20 years. I can't explain online how to do it most effectively but it's hard to go wrong. crepe myrtles are crazy resilient.
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
3948 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 3:02 pm to
None of my crepe Myrtle’s have put out leaves yet. Give it some time.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6497 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:23 pm to
My thought is that you need to do some medium to deep pruning of the upper branches. That seems to work on mine.
Posted by Craw Dawg
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:59 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Commander Rabb
Member since Feb 2020
1016 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:51 pm to
Jobes tree spikes around the drip line. Worked wonders on my crepe. Leaves were brown and dropping off.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25949 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 9:49 am to
So an update. The tree is leafing up, and it's now ahead of the other more mature crepe myrtles in the area. It's still nowhere near as green as the younger ones yet but it's improving quickly.

I'm not sure if I'm out of the woods with this weird moss that's growing on it. I'm hearing the only real way to completely get rid of it is to trim the tree back below the area with the moss. So that's going to happen but not until the fall.

quote:

Jobes tree spikes around the drip line. Worked wonders on my crepe. Leaves were brown and dropping off.




Thanks! I did this back in October, and after this post I did it again last week. Both were the Miracle Grow brand spikes, and I followed the instructions as closely as possible except that part of the drip line goes over a walking path. That fertilizer plus the trimming we did last year seems to have seriously improved this tree. The canopy is already looking better than last year. Hopefully it gets a little thicker and chokes off any kind of fungus that might materialize on the lower trunks.

May be unrelated, but there is an old gas lamp right underneath this tree (you can see it in the picture in the OP). It was unlit and just leaking gas underneath the canopy before we moved in. I imagine it was left unlit for months. I've since re-lit it and kept it on, so there shouldn't be as much gas leaking under the canopy anymore. Not sure if that would have caused an issue or not but it was definitely unlit for months before we moved in, and I read on NPR that it might be a contributing factor. LINK

The lamp gets blown out in heavy wind, but that's only happened a few times since we moved in and I'm very quick to relight it. I need to get it re-glazed and re-finished (or just replaced) so it doesn't happen again.

Thanks for everyone's help.
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 10:01 am
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