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Any advice for growing Indian Hawthorns?

Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:35 pm
Posted by DrewTheEngineer
Baton Rouge (Oak Hills)
Member since Jun 2006
993 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:35 pm
I have a row of them that I planted about 3 years ago, and they have hardly grown at all, and are not very leafy. They get full sun.

Any tips for helping them grow?
Posted by Tigre85
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2019
1919 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:29 pm to
They will grow . Planted 12 in my front yard 23 years ago . I now need to pull them up as half are now dying .
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 2:11 pm to
Although Indian Hawthorne are a nice shrub, they are susceptible to endosporium leaf spot.
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Read the article and if you think you have this disease, and you don’t have one of the varieties that is somewhat resistant, I’d consider replacing them, before you have too many years invested in them, with an alternative shrub.

My Indian Hawthorne’s died of this disease after 20 years, I replaced them semi-dwarf purple diamond loropedalum.
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 2:21 pm
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6198 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:23 pm to
I hate them and suggest to anyone that will listen to pull them up.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59514 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:36 pm to
Where are you located? Are they still full and haven't grown or ratty or missing leaves? Pics?

Those things are so hardy the only thing I can think of is not getting enough water on just what you're saying.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59514 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

Although Indian Hawthorne are a nice shrub, they are susceptible to endosporium leaf spot.

I'd be willing to bet every Indian Hawthorn in humid areas have this. I know it seems that way in Houston. Most can still do OK with mild cases but like yours, the older they get, the worse it becomes.
Posted by Mikey P
Gulfport, MS
Member since May 2017
533 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 7:53 pm to
I like them. They stay green year round, keep a nice shape and need nothing other than water. But they are slow growers. Eventually you will need to cut them back.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6198 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:23 pm to
They are not hardy at all. They love to get leaf spot and once they do they are done
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59514 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 6:54 am to
Your admitted hatred of them and your area being susceptible to leaf spot doesn’t mean they’re not hardy. Hardiness is measured by the plants ability to survive adverse conditions such as sun, shade, drought, heat, wind, freeze, etc. I can stick that plant in about any ground situation and water for 3months and that plant will survive. There’s a reason they’re over used.
Posted by THE Q BOI
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2018
12 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:01 am to
Plant in a sunny spot. They'll live for a while in shade, but they will never thrive or look good.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:31 am to
quote:

I'd be willing to bet every Indian Hawthorn in humid areas have this


You are likely right on this. In Baton Rouge, I don’t see Indian Hawthorne’s being used much more in residential landscapes - they were widely used when I built in 93. I see them used a good bit in landscapes at businesses, banks, etc. and to be honest usually 1/2 are dead or nearly defoliated, young plants, not old ones, maybe b/c of poor care or leaf spot or a combination - don’t know.

I heard one local owner of a sizable retail nursery in BR state on a radio program they are nowdays steering customers away from Indian Hawthorne to other alternatives even though they still sell, and will continue to sell them (leaf spot resistant varieties).

As far as the OP is concerned, his are already planted, and if he has a leaf spot resistant variety and he likes them no reason not to keep them. He can spray intermittently as needed. As another poster noted they are slow growers, so he shouldn’t be concerned about that, assuming optimal growing conditions.

This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 10:10 am
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59514 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:55 am to
quote:

maybe b/c of poor care or leaf spot or a combination - don’t know.

A little of both. Poor air circulation, planted to close together, excessive overhead irrigation attributes to this on top of being already humid area. Some businesses just don't put much care in after installation a some of this could be as minor as water monitoring to control it.
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 9:57 am
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:14 am to
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Some businesses just don't put much care in after installation


Absolutely the case.
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