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Embed videos and play them inside TD
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:14 pm
When will we be able to embed videos and play them inside threads and avoid click-throughs to outside pages?
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:16 pm to tigerpawl
We were able to do that for like a week once but people abused it.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:51 pm to hendersonshands
When will we be able to post pornographic images on TD?
Posted on 5/22/15 at 3:07 pm to terd ferguson
quote:Well... all you guys have to do is hire an NSA flunky to screen embedded posts. No need to thank me for this life-changing information.
When will we be able to post pornographic images on TD?
Posted on 5/22/15 at 3:20 pm to hendersonshands
quote:First ever embedded Youtube on TD...
We were able to do that for like a week once but people abused it.
"Testing out a new feature...please don't abuse it." --Chicken
Posted on 5/22/15 at 3:25 pm to tigerpawl
quote:It wasn't just the content of the videos, there were other problems with it. One dude figured out how to make everyone's browser spawn tons of windows and lock up.
Well... all you guys have to do is hire an NSA flunky to screen embedded posts. No need to thank me for this life-changing information.
It's not as simple as allowing images to be posted. Images are just files, nothing runs. I think embedding Youtube videos requires allowing whole or partial webpages to be inserted into a post, which opens up lots and lots of possibilities.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 3:34 pm to Korkstand
quote:It's 2015. Come on...
It's not as simple as allowing images to be posted. Images are just files, nothing runs. I think embedding Youtube videos requires allowing whole or partial webpages to be inserted into a post, which opens up lots and lots of possibilities.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 4:04 pm to tigerpawl
quote:So? Things may be easier to do these days, but harder to do safely and correctly. And pulling content from an external site is not exactly one of the safer things to attempt.
It's 2015. Come on...
Embedded videos also slow down page loads, and Chicken and Circus Child seem to be obsessed with speed.
Also, screening videos obviously takes a lot longer than screening images. It would require much more admin manpower.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 4:38 pm to Korkstand
quote:Limit it to YouTube, Vimeo, etc - and other domains where you can control inappropriate content...
And pulling content from an external site is not exactly one of the safer things to attempt.
quote:Whuuu?? Just embed a player (iFrame it) in the post and stream away. No need to download locally.
Embedded videos also slow down page loads,
quote:Don't YouTube, Vimeo, etc have self-screening features for adult content?.
Also, screening videos obviously takes a lot longer than screening images.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 4:56 pm to tigerpawl
quote:Like I said, not just inappropriate, but also content unsafe for your computer like what happened the first go 'round.
Limit it to YouTube, Vimeo, etc - and other domains where you can control inappropriate content...
quote:I'm talking about page load speed. Each iframe is going to load the player and a video preview, minimum. Add in the overhead for those requests, and you're probably adding half a second per embedded video to the total page load speed. But even if each one only adds a tenth of a second, multiplied by 20 posts per page (and lord help us if some dumbass tries to embed 10 videos in a post), we are talking about potentially multiple seconds added to the time it takes to load a thread.
Whuuu?? Just embed a player (iFrame it) in the post and stream away. No need to download locally.
quote:They do, but they can take a while to get removed since it has to be reported by users. Regardless, TD screens for more than just adult content, and a lot of stuff allowed on Youtube is not allowed here. An admin can make a call on an image in a split second, but he would have to watch an entire video to make that same decision about content.
Don't YouTube, Vimeo, etc have self-screening features for adult content?.
It's just a whole lot of headaches, and I'm not surprised it's been over 4 years since they last attempted it here.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 5:30 pm to tigerpawl
We were able to do that for a couple of days years ago. People abused it and the site couldn't function. Good times.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 6:25 pm to tigerpawl
When will gif avys be allowed?
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:03 pm to Korkstand
quote:
One dude figured out how to make everyone's browser spawn tons of windows and lock up.
It's not as simple as allowing images to be posted. Images are just files, nothing runs. I think embedding Youtube videos requires allowing whole or partial webpages to be inserted into a post, which opens up lots and lots of possibilities.
how are other message boards able to do it without issue?
Posted on 5/23/15 at 5:20 pm to hawgfaninc
quote:Thank you. The only issue I see is the extra time it takes to screen the videos as opposed to the time it takes to screen static images. If the scalawags are intent on posting bad stuff, I guess they could search YouTube/Vimeo with porn keywords and post them (before they get the hook). Restricting videos to specific domains would help. You can nit-pick this feature to death, but I don't see any significant difference between posting honker/taco JPG's vs. XX vids - other than the admins' additional time to screen them. I think we can safely assume Chicken and friends are doing more than playing bourré back there, but without the benefit of visiting TD Central, that extra time and resource required remains an unanswered question.
how are other message boards able to do it without issue?
One suggestion would be for TD to promote an optional filth filter for video - similar to plugins for browsers. It seems reasonable to think these apps exist.
Page load speed for streaming vids is inconsequential, IMHO.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 10:11 pm to hawgfaninc
quote:By ignoring the issues.
how are other message boards able to do it without issue?
Posted on 5/23/15 at 10:15 pm to tigerpawl
quote:Not sure what impact your opinion has on the fact that multiple video players on a page slows it down.
Page load speed for streaming vids is inconsequential, IMHO.
Posted on 5/24/15 at 6:00 pm to Korkstand
quote:Until you hang a number on it, it's speculation. And even then, it's still Chicklen's call. It depends on if the trade-off (page load, screening time and everything that goes with it, plus providing a cool new feature for 5,000 Rantards) is worth it to the TD admins.
Not sure what impact your opinion has on the fact that multiple video players on a page slows it down.
If your concern about page load is to preserve Google Page Rank, you *might* have a point - but still speculation until you can measure it. It would also depend on how Google would treat the slow down in page load. Again, I think it's much ado about nothing.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 11:34 am to tigerpawl
So.... This is back, judging by your thread?
Posted on 5/25/15 at 11:39 am to tigerpawl
Honest question, are you retarded?
Posted on 5/26/15 at 9:48 am to tigerpawl
quote:
Until you hang a number on it, it's speculation.
quote:It was speculation based on years of experience plus basic logic. But, you're right, my earlier guess of half a second per embedded video was just speculation. So I measured it so we can hang some real numbers on it.
but still speculation until you can measure it.
I made a bare minimum html file on my local machine, then began embedding youtube videos on it one by one, and checked the page load times using Chrome's developer tools.
1 Embedded Video:
Requests to external resources: 22
Average Load Time: 0.98s
2 Embedded Videos:
Requests to external resources: 34
Average Load Time: 1.36s
3 Embedded Videos:
Requests to external resources: 52
Average Load Time: 1.94s
4 Embedded Videos:
Requests to external resources: 65
Average Load Time: 2.44s
5 Embedded Videos:
Requests to external resources: 78
Average Load Time: 2.75s
I'm not surprised that each video added about half a second to the total time. Are you? Check it yourself if you don't believe me.
By comparison, this entire thread page has about 195 total requests and loads in about 5.25s, but the majority of that is ads that load after all the content. I can't put a precise number on it, but the content looks to load in about 1s, and certainly less than 2s.
quote:Page rank is a concern, but considering the slower loads would be caused by Google's own site, I don't think they would treat it too harshly. I would be more concerned about user retention, which is heavily influenced by page load times.
If your concern about page load is to preserve Google Page Rank, you *might* have a point - but still speculation until you can measure it. It would also depend on how Google would treat the slow down in page load.
quote:Yep, you're right, and they could add the feature back at any time. But judging by the way it went the last time they tried, I'm not sure the benefit is worth all the drawbacks.
And even then, it's still Chicklen's call. It depends on if the trade-off (page load, screening time and everything that goes with it, plus providing a cool new feature for 5,000 Rantards) is worth it to the TD admins.
One way to handle the page load issue is to make youtube links look like they do now, except instead of launching a new browser window, they could just load the iframe into the page at that point. It wouldn't save that click, but it would be a smoother experience than leaving the site, and it would retain the current smooth experience as far as page load times.
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