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Relationship between thyroid and metabolism

Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:10 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:10 pm
On my blood profile I have an overactive thyroid. However, I can maintain on 2000 calories at 220lbs. I don't feel tired and I still lift heavy.

What's the relationship that I may be missing?
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:24 pm to
Severity plays a big role.

Also, an overactive thyroid would cause you to feel overly energetic and anxious, antsy, and maybe a faster metabolism.. again, depends on severity. Underactive is where you feel exhausted and have a lower BMR. But even then BMR is only reduced by ~200cal, the bigger problem is those with underactive thyroids feel like total shite and have no energy so NEAT drops to very little, and many of those with it don't exercise at all or do so very little.

For example, my TSH was at -9 and I was fricking exhausted beyond exhausted, I was seeing some hair falling out, and I had no strength. I'm already not very strong but my lifts were almost half of what they were once I felt better.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:28 pm to
Mine is .755 TSH which is low [.4 - 4]
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:31 pm to
That's actually high. Optimal is between -1 and -2 for most people.

But I don't think that's severely high.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 9:32 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:33 pm to
You sure you're on the right scale?
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:40 pm to
Not sure why I included the -. I'm sorry.

Anyway, the higher TSH number means your brain is pumping out TSH at a higher and higher level. TSH is Thyroid Signaling Hormone. The higher that number is, means your brain is sending bigger and bigger signals to your thyroid because it's not seeing the right balance of hormones, specifically t3 iirc.

In this way, TSH is kind of reads like a negative scale. The larger the number the more underactive your thyroid is.


Your doc should also be looking at free t4 and free t3. T4 is the storage hormone and the thyroid converts t4 to t3, which the body uses in metabolism.


ETA

In your case you have probably have too much t3 and so your brain is sending smaller signals to your thyroid.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 9:42 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:50 pm to
So my level indicates almost an overactive thyroid. Something else thyroid related could still be messing up?
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:54 pm to
Well keep in mind I'm just a schlub on the internet, not an MD, but yes I'd consider yours borderline overactive. Most MDs probably won't medicate you or anything for it yet but they should start asking you for blood work every 6 months to monitor it until they're comfortable that it'll be stable, then just annual blood draws for it.
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
11116 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:56 pm to
If your T3 and T4 are normal and you are asymptomatic, nothing needs to be done.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:03 pm to
I'm not really looking to change anything but I've always been curious on why I can keep muscle mass and perform well with low calories and not high test levels.

Just trying to fit the pieces together. I tried going to a general practitioner but they don't do much. I guess I can go to an endocrinologist and see?
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
11116 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:11 pm to
If you are lifting heavy and eating correctly (limiting insulin spikes) it could off set some of your lower test issues.
Posted by pcolatiger28
Pensacola, Fl
Member since Apr 2009
1284 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:21 am to
Hulk, how did you get your thyroid back in order? Prescription meds or diet, exercise, and supplementation?
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 5:06 am to
Synthetic t4 prescription, levothyroxine. It took about a year and a half to get the prescription dialed in. I'm currently on 250mcg per day.


In my case (and many people with hypothyroidism) I have Hashimotos Thyroiditis, which is autoimmune. There is no diet proven to reduce antibodies. A FODMAP or strict paleo diet like AIP may help reduce inflammation and help some feel a bit better, but they're a lot of work for not much payoff. That said, I don't know how much studying has been done on any diets.
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 7:17 am
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59114 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 6:52 am to
I feel bad for people with hippothyroid

They can’t help but gain weight
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:34 am to
I chuckled. Very punny.
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