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re: Peptides from Lioncore
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:44 am to TigerFanatic99
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:44 am to TigerFanatic99
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The is no link. You have to find a discord invite or their telegram, which is damned near fricking impossible to do. After that you can review a price list then email or telegram an a-hole named Tracy, transfer him some crypto, then get your product, maybe.
dumbest shite i have ever heard. so easy to find and why are you acting like crypto is some weird thing?
just look on stairway to gray if not, frick man or search telegram for what someone else posted
nobody is going to post a link. sorry. if they do they are dumb.
Posted on 8/31/26 at 1:48 pm to lsu777
I’ve done buys with both groups and vendors, and there are definitely downsides to the grey market. If customs seizes your package, you could be waiting 45+ days to get your order—if the vendor even reships it. Most aren’t going to give you a refund.
You also have to consider inconsistent quality, fake or misleading COAs, sterility/endotoxin concerns, incorrect vial content, shipping and storage issues, and limited accountability. There’s also the payment risk. With some overseas or less-established vendors, you run a higher risk of your card information being compromised, unauthorized charges, or having little protection if something goes wrong. It's not all positive
You also have to consider inconsistent quality, fake or misleading COAs, sterility/endotoxin concerns, incorrect vial content, shipping and storage issues, and limited accountability. There’s also the payment risk. With some overseas or less-established vendors, you run a higher risk of your card information being compromised, unauthorized charges, or having little protection if something goes wrong. It's not all positive
Posted on 8/31/26 at 2:37 pm to CajunClaw
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I’ve done buys with both groups and vendors, and there are definitely downsides to the grey market. If customs seizes your package, you could be waiting 45+ days to get your order—if the vendor even reships it. Most aren’t going to give you a refund.
You also have to consider inconsistent quality, fake or misleading COAs, sterility/endotoxin concerns, incorrect vial content, shipping and storage issues, and limited accountability. There’s also the payment risk. With some overseas or less-established vendors, you run a higher risk of your card information being compromised, unauthorized charges, or having little protection if something goes wrong. It's not all positive
you keep posting stupid shite like this
1) most of, if not all, of the good vendors have US warehouses where it ships domestic. if you buy over seas to save a few pennies....yea thats on you
2) with the savings you can test your batches or do a group test and still save a shite ton. most of the good vendors test every single batch and there are multiple 3rd party test on each batch. there have been very very very few cases of sterility/endotoxin, incorrect vial content and inconsistent quality, fake or misleading COAs with the good ones and when there has been they are gone.
but lioncore aint testing shite. way less than the big vendors. and lioncore is grey market just the same. jsut because they put up a pretty sales pitch and tell you what you want to hear...yea they are lying or they would have the test on the site. I didnt even want to bash them but you are forcing me to call out this bullshite. not to mention there are currently 7 factories producing in china...where the frick do you think lioncore is getting it from? please tell me you dont think its being produced in the US right? because that is a huge lie.
the big vendors dont accept a card....anyone that accepts a card is putting you at risk big time.
i never said its all positive. QSC had its own problems over a year ago and there are always scammers but for you to act like lioncore is above approach is fricking laughbale. but hey keep slurping the bullshite if you want
and hey...im not saying dont order from lioncore...im saying stop acting like they are above approach and they are some perfect vendor when they are anything but.
Posted on 8/31/26 at 4:22 pm to lsu777
You’re arguing against something I never said. I never claimed Lioncore was perfect, above criticism, or that its products were manufactured in the US.
My point is simple: “grey market” doesn’t automatically mean every vendor carries the same level of risk or offers the same degree of testing, accountability, or customer service.
You say the major vendors test every batch through multiple third-party labs. Great—then hold Lioncore to that same standard and ask to see the testing. But saying “they ain’t testing shite” or “they’re lying” without actually knowing that isn’t evidence; it’s an assumption.
And the card argument doesn’t make sense. Accepting cards doesn’t automatically make a transaction riskier. Established card networks can provide fraud monitoring and dispute or chargeback protections. Crypto payments are generally irreversible, giving the buyer far less recourse if something goes wrong.
Nobody said overseas vendors are automatically bad, either. Some may have excellent testing and strong track records. The point is that people should evaluate actual batch testing, sterility and endotoxin results, payment protections, shipping, and accountability—not pretend that one business model magically eliminates risk.
Sitting behind a keyboard and bashing a company is stupid. If you prefer buying from overseas, great—continue doing so, buddy. I get mine in three days, not three weeks.
My point is simple: “grey market” doesn’t automatically mean every vendor carries the same level of risk or offers the same degree of testing, accountability, or customer service.
You say the major vendors test every batch through multiple third-party labs. Great—then hold Lioncore to that same standard and ask to see the testing. But saying “they ain’t testing shite” or “they’re lying” without actually knowing that isn’t evidence; it’s an assumption.
And the card argument doesn’t make sense. Accepting cards doesn’t automatically make a transaction riskier. Established card networks can provide fraud monitoring and dispute or chargeback protections. Crypto payments are generally irreversible, giving the buyer far less recourse if something goes wrong.
Nobody said overseas vendors are automatically bad, either. Some may have excellent testing and strong track records. The point is that people should evaluate actual batch testing, sterility and endotoxin results, payment protections, shipping, and accountability—not pretend that one business model magically eliminates risk.
Sitting behind a keyboard and bashing a company is stupid. If you prefer buying from overseas, great—continue doing so, buddy. I get mine in three days, not three weeks.
Posted on 8/31/26 at 4:41 pm to CajunClaw
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Sitting behind a keyboard and bashing a company is stupid. If you prefer buying from overseas, great—continue doing so, buddy. I get mine in three days, not three weeks.
All he is saying is there is a host of people testing against QSC along with QSC testing their own. Lioncore may or may not be testing each batch but they arent showing each COA. QSC also has US warehouses. Lioncore just doesnt have the following of QSC where a bunch of people are posting their independent testing against the products.
The price difference I have seen is about 2-2.5x the cost of QSC from lioncore. However, to the uninitiated and hesitant people that want superficial safety nets with the polished website and using a card or ppl who only wanna try 1-2 vials, lioncore is good. The owner is very nice and bends over backwards to help out.
Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:04 pm to CajunClaw
It’s pretty obvious at this point that you have ties to this company. Good for you and I hope you’re doing well with it. But with those markups, the least you should be doing it testing every single batch you get In.
Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:56 pm to lsu777
Sounds like he just needs to find a US based group-buy reseller that uses payment apps instead of credit cards. He’d get better pricing with legit batch testing without the hassle of learning crypto. But Lioncores site looks pretty cool though.
Posted on 9/1/26 at 12:12 am to Uncle JackD
To say I have ties to Lioncore is just an assumption. I’ve bought through Discord and Telegram groups too, and those experiences haven’t always been positive. I’ve also purchased from Peptira and Amino Club and received contaminated vials that they wouldn’t replace.
My point is simple: Mark at Lioncore has always gone above and beyond when there’s an issue. He’s a good guy and actually takes care of his customers. That’s all I’m saying.
My point is simple: Mark at Lioncore has always gone above and beyond when there’s an issue. He’s a good guy and actually takes care of his customers. That’s all I’m saying.
Posted on 9/1/26 at 12:32 am to CajunClaw
I'm out of this forum that's clearly called lioncore peptides which ask for opinions. Thanks uncle jacking D's lol looks like you got your hands full.
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:34 am to CajunClaw
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You’re arguing against something I never said. I never claimed Lioncore was perfect, above criticism, or that its products were manufactured in the US.
My point is simple: “grey market” doesn’t automatically mean every vendor carries the same level of risk or offers the same degree of testing, accountability, or customer service.
lioncore is gray market dude, all of these vendors are and guess what its technically illegal and that is why using a card puts you at risk
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You say the major vendors test every batch through multiple third-party labs. Great—then hold Lioncore to that same standard and ask to see the testing. But saying “they ain’t testing shite” or “they’re lying” without actually knowing that isn’t evidence; it’s an assumption
im not assuming, if they had the test they would be showing them
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Nobody said overseas vendors are automatically bad, either. Some may have excellent testing and strong track records. The point is that people should evaluate actual batch testing, sterility and endotoxin results, payment protections, shipping, and accountability—not pretend that one business model magically eliminates risk.
we arent the ones doing that, yall are doing that with lioncore
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Sitting behind a keyboard and bashing a company is stupid. If you prefer buying from overseas, great—continue doing so, buddy. I get mine in three days, not three weeks.
i didnt bash lioncore, other then dont claim to test every batch but cant provide the test
and pretty much every major vendor, has a domestic warehouse, you get it in the same time frame as lioncore
like i said before, do as you please, but stop acting like buying from lioncore is like buying from the pharmacy and that they are doign you a favor. Not even saying they are bad at all, Im saying they are not any different than any other source, stop dick riding
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:39 am to CajunClaw
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Mark at Lioncore has always gone above and beyond when there’s an issue. He’s a good guy and actually takes care of his customers. That’s all I’m saying.
and FTR with my limited experience with them and everything I have been told, I agree. they seem to always take care of issues.
my whole point was that they are not perfect, please stop acting like they can do no worng
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:55 am to CajunClaw
quote:What?
I'm out of this forum that's clearly called lioncore peptides which ask for opinions. Thanks uncle jacking D's lol looks like you got your hands full.
Posted on 9/1/26 at 9:39 am to lsu777
What risk is there by using your own card?
This post was edited on 9/1/26 at 9:40 am
Posted on 9/1/26 at 9:42 am to themasterpater
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What risk is there by using your own card?
umm you are literally breaking the law...you are doing something illegal. just because its on a website doesnt make it legal. if they want, the bank can freeze your funds, close your account while they investigate. not saying it will happen...but that risk is there although slight.
Posted on 9/1/26 at 9:56 am to lsu777
Got it. Unlikely they go after consumer over distributor. Thanks for your help.
Posted on 9/1/26 at 10:04 am to themasterpater
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Got it. Unlikely they go after consumer over distributor. Thanks for your help.
sure LE wouldnt....but the bank absolutely will freeze your account.
Posted on 9/1/26 at 10:26 am to lsu777
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umm you are literally breaking the law...you are doing something illegal. just because its on a website doesnt make it legal. if they want, the bank can freeze your funds, close your account while they investigate. not saying it will happen...but that risk is there although slight.
I can't find anywhere on the interwebz that states buying these peptides directly from china is illegal for the customer in any way. Can you find a case of someone being arrested for buying these for personal use?
I believe it can only be illegal if you are the distributor\supplier which makes sense why these guys would want it paid for via crypto and only wanting to sell on telegram\discord
This post was edited on 9/1/26 at 10:27 am
Posted on 9/1/26 at 10:34 am to TigerMan327
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I can't find anywhere on the interwebz that states buying these peptides directly from china is illegal for the customer in any way. Can you find a case of someone being arrested for buying these for personal use?
I believe it can only be illegal if you are the distributor\supplier which makes sense why these guys would want it paid for via crypto and only wanting to sell on telegram\discord
ok well then i guess nobody has ever been charged with buying HGH right....its the same schedule class. its an unapproved medicine.
you didnt find it so it must be legal right?
believe what you want.
and im not saying you will be charged....chances are very low. but its an unapproved medication that you are buying with out a script. being a distributor just adds a distribution charge and ups the chances of being charged.
but that was not my point. if your bank thinks for you are sending money to someone performing an illegal business....they can freeze your funds and account. period, that's the main risk.
again though, everyone should do what they want
Posted on 9/1/26 at 10:36 am to lsu777
For the record I think you’re super helpful. I’m a newb to all this and learning. Is there a way to contact you?
Posted on 9/1/26 at 10:40 am to lsu777
I'm not trying to get an argument with you my man. I'm not even in the peptide game but thinking about and was looking through the thread.
I couldn't find anything online about it being illegal to buy peptides.
Your example of HGH doesn't quite correlate because HGH is considered an illegal substance unless prescribed for proper needs by a physician and is considered a felony offense. GLP1's are not. Anyone can prescribe them pretty much with no recourse and no reasoning.
I'm like this fella. I find you to be very insightful with these things and was generally asking if you have proof of it being a criminal offense to buy peptides via gray market.
Edit2: After re googling the same question, google AI has now changed it's tune and saying it is illegal with an extremely low risk of any legal recourse. First time I did it said it was perfectly fine
I couldn't find anything online about it being illegal to buy peptides.
Your example of HGH doesn't quite correlate because HGH is considered an illegal substance unless prescribed for proper needs by a physician and is considered a felony offense. GLP1's are not. Anyone can prescribe them pretty much with no recourse and no reasoning.
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For the record I think you’re super helpful. I’m a newb to all this and learning. Is there a way to contact you?
I'm like this fella. I find you to be very insightful with these things and was generally asking if you have proof of it being a criminal offense to buy peptides via gray market.
Edit2: After re googling the same question, google AI has now changed it's tune and saying it is illegal with an extremely low risk of any legal recourse. First time I did it said it was perfectly fine
This post was edited on 9/1/26 at 10:53 am
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