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re: Pedro, or anyone else with youth running experience
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:51 am to LSUfan20005
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:51 am to LSUfan20005
I'll check into it, thanks!
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:43 am to RandySavage
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Got to the point where we were traveling all over the southeast just for regular league games and that just wasn't for her.
That's how we felt. League fees, uniform packages, new cleats, it all adds up. Then you throw in 3-4 overnight or weekend trips for tournaments and you're spending thousands each year to play soccer. Ours were not all over the southeast, but mainly within Alabama. We're in Vestavia, and we could manage games in Montgomery, Gadsden, Tuscaloosa etc without getting a hotel, but Huntsville, Foley, Gulf Shores, and others were definitely 2 nights in a hotel, to play in a quick tournament where they might play 2-3 games.
I love that the Birmingham area has so many good track programs. All of indoor meets are at the Crossplex, and all of our outdoor meets up until the state meet are in the Bham metro. Trussville, Mountain Brook, Hoover/Spain Park, Homewood, and then a few home meets at Vestavia.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:19 am to RandySavage
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My 12 year old daughter has started to show some pretty decent potential as a distance runner, not like Olympics or anything but high level high school/ potential college is she's committed. She trains three days a week with her team. I guess my question is is that enough or should i be encouraging her to do more? My inclination is to push some but I don't want to be that dad and burn her out physically or mentally. What's a good training routine do a 12 year old?
I was more or less a collegiate track coach at one time. One important thing to remember for someone still growing is to keep things varied to reduce the risk for injury. She absolutely should be doing some speed training and some resistance training. I would suggest at least 1-2 speed days a week where she runs timed 200s or 400s. When she grows to full height, id bump this to 400/800s. Keep in mind that on collegiate track teams, distance runners will often need to pull extra duty in 800s and/or relays.
*This is something I usually tell Baseball parents, but this also applies: times and placements when you are 12 even up to 15/16 dont matter one bit. Development and preventing injury is all that matters. When you get to Junior/Senior year when recruiting becomes a thing...then you can really dial in the training
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 10:37 am
Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:48 am to RandySavage
quote:unfortunate reality for girls distance runners is alot depends on how puberty hits them. Ive seen quite a few that were incredibly good freshmen year and then mother nature doesnt do them any favors and they either plateau or start to slow down some. A lot of mine do usually see a good chunk of improvement though. As long as they have a good head on their shoulders and work for it.
Do you typically see a lot of improvement from girls from freshmen year to senior?
quote:outside of the junior high not really. There are a ton of options here in wichita for track clubs and such though. If youre in a fairly decent sized area or close to one there should be some options there if she wants to do that. Ive even done some training on the side with younger kids here and there myself in free time.
Do you guys have a junior program?
quote:I would say typically high school as long as coaching is good. Just out of curiosity what high school would she be going to if you dont mind me asking? I can probably give you some ideas as to what that program might look like for her just by digging around milesplit for a bit. Thats another unfortunate reality of this sport. Theres alot of people coaching it that have no idea what theyre doing. Its definitely gotten better and continues to improve but is still something to watch out for.
When does the most development typically occur?
Posted on 2/27/24 at 10:42 am to Pedro
We are in the Harrison district in Georgia. I'm fairly plugged in locally so while i don't know the track coaches I've taught a lot of the runners and know it's one of the better distance programs in the state. The boys won in the highest class last year and girls finished third
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:38 am to RandySavage
Yea looking through times/progressions of some of their girls the last couple years it seems like theyve got a really good system in place. id say shes in a good spot to get better through high school id just try to make sure youre only pushing her as much as she wants to be pushed for now and being careful to avoid injury. overdoing it is the biggest thing that can hurt her right now.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 12:17 pm to Pedro
You ever do the pacer with your kids?
Posted on 3/14/24 at 12:45 pm to RandySavage
Nah that doesn’t really do much for us for xc purposes honestly. Maybe not a bad speed workout but I feel like my kids would get bored with it quick.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:27 pm to Pedro
Ha my competitive elementary kids loved it, always wondered what higher level runners would score
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:32 pm to RandySavage
TheAthleteSpecial did it a few months ago. He used to be a pro runner for Brooks and now just does YouTube content. Can't remember what level he got to
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:27 pm to RandySavage
One question I would ask before deciding on path forward: how are her current XC/distance coaches at her school? A lot of times, junior highs just throw a stipend to a football coach to coach runners. My son came up with an awful XC coach at his junior high and all the serious runners paid for additional coaching and training plans. The junior high across town had an amazing distance coach, and it was night and day in the development of the athletes.
Edit: I see this was already covered a few posts prior to mine.
Edit: I see this was already covered a few posts prior to mine.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:05 pm to hogfly
Yea the coach at the jr high that feeds into me is unfortunately not very good so I’ve had to fight a few “well my personal coach said this” battles because they got while they were in middle school and didn’t want to let go of it. Pisses me off because I know what I’m doing so they end up just running themselves into the ground for no reason.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 7:14 pm to Pedro
Our high school program (Fayetteville High in Fayetteville, AR) is legit with a legit coach with solid connections who usually puts out one nationally ranked runner a year, I think. One of the junior highs that feeds has an amazing coach. The other… eh.
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