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Cortisol counteracts testosterone?

Posted on 7/14/20 at 7:58 am
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 7:58 am
I watched a video of some science supplement bro recently. Granted, he was trying to sell one of their products, but he came off as very knowledgeable and cited several studies that indicated high levels of cortisol could be extremely counterproductive with regards to your body’s ability to effectively use testosterone.

He said people who think they have low T may just have too much cortisol consistently in their blood. And even if you do have low T and begin treating it, you won’t get the full benefits of it unless you also lower your cortisol.


My questions: 1) is this pretty well accepted science? and 2) what can be done about lowering cortisol levels besides meditation, yoga, exercise, whatever other natural methods to lower stress? Are there any supplements out there proven to work? His product had tribulus and ashwaganda as its main ingredients.
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 4:45 pm to
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is this pretty well accepted science?


Yes.

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what can be done about lowering cortisol levels besides meditation, yoga, exercise, whatever other natural methods to lower stress?


L-theanine and maybe some st. johns wort as some natural OTC options. But im all about meditation and reading on ways to handle the stress. Stress is a choice.

Best OTC option for test maybe a little D-Aspartic acid run. None of the OTC stuff will be as good as prescription though.
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 4:46 pm
Posted by lattin1
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Posted on 7/15/20 at 12:29 am to
Cortisol is only bad if you have extremely elevated levels for prolonged periods of time. You actually need cortisol if you want to train hard. Without it there's very low adrenaline, which means lower strength, speed, endurance, and drive.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
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Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:58 am to
what do suggest we do? Thanks
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 3:00 am
Posted by lattin1
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Posted on 7/15/20 at 9:15 am to
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what do suggest we do? Thanks


Is there any reason to believe you have elevated cortisol levels?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:01 am to
LINK

The link is to an article on overtraining but it does a nice job of explaining cortisol as well.

quote:

Cortisol is not the enemy per se. It has an important role in the training process. It helps mobilize energy during the session by increasing the breakdown of glycogen and fat stores to produce energy to fuel your muscles. Granted, it also increases the breakdown of muscles, but that isn't really the big problem.

The big problem is that cortisol, testosterone, and estrogen are produced from the same "mother hormone," which is pregnenolone. The more cortisol you produce, the less pregnenolone you have available to produce testosterone!

If you constantly overproduce cortisol, you'll not only have a lower testosterone level, but what little testosterone you have left will have a harder time doing its job. This leads to less muscle, more fat, and no libido.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 10:03 am
Posted by Gorilla Ball
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:41 am to
No I don’t have any reason. I guess I never heard of this symptom or disease.
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