Anyone here do conjugate training/west side barbell?

Westside is it’s own form of Conjugate. Conjugate is just a training philosophy they adapted to their own goals. It’s a perfectly viable training style, but familiarize yourself with Conjugate before just running with Westside. I’ve never done it, so I can’t speak from experience. I know Westside has a few different versions of their methods that might cater to you, but the OG Westside program was designed to push powerlifters who already had elite level totals to another level.

Makes sense

From what I know about Westside, it lacks specificity big time. If someone wants to get better/stronger on a certain lift, one needs to do that lift a lot.

It's comes from the law of accommodation and that Louie noticed in the Russian text/trials that after 2-3 sessions, advanced lifters tend to peak and tend to go backwards after that.

He talked about in one of the seminars I did with him. I forgot which one though.

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That’s badass.

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not really, they are available online. If you have ever listened to Louie speak.....well it is anything but badass. Dude is the living breathing example of ADD. Makes me look like i have zero issues. I mean he is seriously all over the map.

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westside is for very experienced lifters that have peaked out using conventional methods. IMO some dude that benches 185 shouldn’t be doing pin presses and stuff like that.

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this has been brought up a bunch, in general this is true but the principals of the westside method can be seen all over the place and can be seen all over in programs from beginners to advanced guys.

take gslp for example

FM work= repetition work
first two sets on main lifts= dynamic work
+ set= max effort set
GSLP reset and the swapping of exercises=conjugate rotation

viking conditioning= gpp work


531-
+ set = max effort
jumps/throws= dynamic effort
BBB/BBS sets= repetition work
sled work= gpp work

DC training
RP sets=max effort
DC reset= conjugate rotation
Incline treadmill walks= gpp work


sure its not set up exactly as westside is with 2 max and 2 dynamic effort days, but all have the elements in them. Hell WS4SB is setup originally with only 3 days.

Point is, yes westside with teh constant rotation every session of max effort lifts is an advanced technique, but the technique has been adapted to where it allows younger lifters to max out on a lift in a certain rep range before performing a reset or swapping the lift for a variant.

and DC training came about around the same time as WSBB as Daunte was writing abotu in the Hardcore magazine he produced in the late 80s/early 90s and he already had been using the system then. GSLP principles are more based on DC training. But all of this including the old Westside barbell in culvert city CA that louie got many of the ideas from stem from the old russian systems that the government run programs produced.

So sure WSBB system strictly as run at teh Columbus Gym is more advanced, but the principles of that system can be seen in programs of all levels in BB, PL, CF and WL.

Not if you’re deadlifting 800 or so at a 200 lb bw

Louie is like a mad scientist. A lot of people in the powerlifting community give him shite, but I don’t think it’s fair to judge unless you were in his gym.

shite, endurance is a big factor in meets

That’s because a lot of “power lifters” are just a bunch of fat asses. Getting their fat asses out of bed is power lifting.