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re: Your one request for Baton Rouge golf
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:14 am to Navajo61490
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:14 am to Navajo61490
Just do a little research and you'll see we could have the right number of rounds for the remaining courses if LSU, City Park and Clark closed.
We could legit have some nice courses. The remaining BREC courses could be like RTJ courses. The other courses like Island, Pelican Point, Bluffs and Copper could be really nice tracks.
We could legit have some nice courses. The remaining BREC courses could be like RTJ courses. The other courses like Island, Pelican Point, Bluffs and Copper could be really nice tracks.
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:23 am to lsu13lsu
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Just do a little research
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:55 am to lsu13lsu
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It is amazing what we have been conditioned to call nice in BR. When you go play in other places you see how far behind we are in golf. We have a lot of courses but none are worth traveling to BR just to play.
Do those courses cost $7 to walk in the evenings like City Park?
I think City Park serves its purpose just fine
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:58 am to lsu13lsu
quote:Beaver is nice for what it is an the amount of resources it has. That being said, you're right. Other places have much nicer courses for the same price range, mostly because they get regular play and can afford the upkeep.
It is amazing what we have been conditioned to call nice in BR. When you go play in other places you see how far behind we are in golf.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:24 am to ell_13
Clark, Webb, and LSU all serve a purpose and have a role. You can't remove those course and expect to get tee times in the morning at Santa Maria. And the increased play will make it tough on the course.
Greystone is $199 a month for under 35, fwiw.
But Baton Rouge really is the worst golf city, unless you have the money to join one of the private clubs.
Greystone is $199 a month for under 35, fwiw.
But Baton Rouge really is the worst golf city, unless you have the money to join one of the private clubs.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 11:49 am to ell_13
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Beaver is nice for what it is an the amount of resources it has. That being said, you're right. Other places have much nicer courses for the same price range, mostly because they get regular play and can afford the upkeep.
Our better courses could more regular play if a few of the crappier ones closed. City Park, Clark and LSU will never be great courses. If people want cheap practice , I don't think it should be at the expense of all the other courses and at taxpayer expense.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 11:54 am to The Johnny Lawrence
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But Baton Rouge really is the worst golf city, unless you have the money to join one of the private clubs.
NOLA is as bad or worse IMO. Courses may be a little higher quality overall, but it can be tough getting tee times anywhere in New Orleans.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 11:56 am to BLIZZAKE7
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Do those courses cost $7 to walk in the evenings like City Park? I think City Park serves its purpose just fine
I have no argument for you. I am not trying to save almost free golf. I am hoping BR can have the decent golf courses it deserves.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:03 pm to lsu13lsu
I am admittedly not sure, but are you guys sure that the LSU course is funded like the BREC courses? BREC has a budget, and I don't think the LSU course is a part of that. It is funded by taxpayers because it's part of the public University, but I don't think shutting it down would have any effect on the condition of the BREC courses besides the revenue from the tee times that would move over there.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:13 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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but I don't think shutting it down would have any effect on the condition of the BREC courses besides the revenue from the tee times that would move over there.
I read in the Advocate it costs LSU $250k per year to keep it open. Obviously, taxpayer funded.
You don't think increased revenues in remaining courses would result in increased quality? I think it would.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:23 pm to lsu13lsu
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You don't think increased revenues in remaining courses would result in increased quality? I think it would.
I can tell you for a fact that is not the case. BREC courses are given a budget for the year. If you reach that budget in August, you are SOL for the rest of the year. Money can be moved between budgets (i.e.-from "Pro-shop" to "course maintenance") The budgets are reviewed after each physical year and nothing can be done unless you fill out a mountain of paperwork to get an amended budget for the remaining months.
The money you make in one month does not dictate how much your course can spend the next month. At least in the BREC public sector.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:31 pm to BeaverPRO
I guess I am not understanding how their budgets work (and I have worked in government).
- They lose less money (by closing Clark and City Park).
- They make more money at courses left.
And budget remains exactly the same year to year to year?
ETA: I am not talking about changing budget for a month to month. You cannot change a course in a short period of time. It takes time. I think budgets could improve over years.
- They lose less money (by closing Clark and City Park).
- They make more money at courses left.
And budget remains exactly the same year to year to year?
ETA: I am not talking about changing budget for a month to month. You cannot change a course in a short period of time. It takes time. I think budgets could improve over years.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:36 pm to lsu13lsu
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They lose less money (by closing Clark and City Park).
If they close the course mid year, the money WILL NOT go to the other courses! The money will defer back to the general fund and disappear!
-Yes they will make more money, but the money will not go back into the courses until the next budget comes out! it is not on a monthly basis where money can be moved and sorted. You have your allotted money for the year and THAT IS IT!
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:39 pm to BeaverPRO
I am not worried about the next six months. I am worried about the next six years or more. Close them at 12/31 then.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:39 pm to lsu13lsu
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I read in the Advocate it costs LSU $250k per year to keep it open. Obviously, taxpayer funded.
You don't think increased revenues in remaining courses would result in increased quality? I think it would.
LSU is funded by the state legislature and BREC is funded by the city so no I don't think closing LSU would have any effect on BREC.
Again I'm not 100%, but assuming these facts are correct than it's almost assuredly that way.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:43 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I am referring to the concept of Supply and Demand and not government Subsidies when I say golf will get better if LSU closes.
I don't think the subsidies from LSU will go to BREC. I think the revenues will.
I don't think the subsidies from LSU will go to BREC. I think the revenues will.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:47 pm to lsu13lsu
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I am referring to the concept of Supply and Demand and not government Subsidies when I say golf will get better if LSU closes.
I don't think the subsidies from LSU will go to BREC. I think te revenues will.
Meh I don't think closing LSU will increase the revenue any significant amount of any BREC course due to there being 1 less course, but that is at least a point that can be argued.
Just wanted to make sure we were on the same page as far as funding goes.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:53 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
How or why would you state that without any information?
LSU's revenues are probably $500k or more. I bet City Park is similar. Clark is probably only $100k.
Let's just round down to $1M.
That money would do amazing things for BREC courses.
LSU's revenues are probably $500k or more. I bet City Park is similar. Clark is probably only $100k.
Let's just round down to $1M.
That money would do amazing things for BREC courses.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:02 pm to Navajo61490
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lolz at closing LSU. they are probably the best range right now.
Agreed - they've got really good turf and you can hit a large bucket for like $7.
I recall there were rumors that this place was going to shut down a year or two ago. What ever became of that (other than the fact that it did not actually shut down)?
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