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What makes a golf course great?

Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:32 pm
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:32 pm
Other than condition obviously. What aspects make a golf course great in your opinion? Scenery, style (links, parkland, desert), playability, green complexes?

Long and narrow off the tee or more open with options available?

For those of you that follow golf course architects, which ones do you consider the best and what qualities make you think they're the best?
Posted by Rusty Scroggins
Member since Feb 2019
197 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:34 pm to
Long, narrow, long rough, penal, and unplayable, specifically designed by Rees Jones. Anything that doesn't manufacture high scores and is miserable to play sucks
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3495 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:36 pm to
don't troll baw, you've hated enough in the other thread. I want to know what are the qualities you're looking for that makes a course truly great
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42530 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:38 pm to
Width & angles for life
Posted by Rusty Scroggins
Member since Feb 2019
197 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:40 pm to
A few characteristics are options off the tee, true "risk/reward." one side of the fairway provides a good look at the flag whereas the other side brings in a bad angle to the green. This let's more people hit the fairway, but allows for a great recovery shot or a bad score depending on aggression of the player.

Things like centerline bunkers that can influence the player mentally to take a certain line

Good green complexes.

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For those of you that follow golf course architects, which ones do you consider the best


Mackenzie, Maxwell, Raynor, Tillinghast, Maxwell, Macdonald, Ross, Coore Crenshaw, Doak, among others.

quote:

what qualities make you think they're the best?


Everything described above and not moving a shite ton of land to build neighborhoods around the courses

This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Woolfman_8
Old Metairie
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:41 pm to
having never played any courses outside of southern LA and only seeing pictures online, I would say scenery.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42530 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:46 pm to
Scenery is great, but you also need great golf course design to go along with that.

Torrey Pines could be an absolutely fantastic course, but they butchered the design. I don’t think it could be as good as Pebble, but it could at least be close.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85031 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:48 pm to
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Mackenzie, Maxwell, Raynor, Tillinghast, Maxwell, Macdonald, Ross, Coore Crenshaw, Doak
You must really like Maxwell.

Where's Dye?
Posted by Rusty Scroggins
Member since Feb 2019
197 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:49 pm to
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I don’t think it could be as good as Pebble


Only 7000 yards therefore it sucks and -25 will win the US Open this year
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 1:50 pm
Posted by Rusty Scroggins
Member since Feb 2019
197 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:50 pm to
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Where's Dye?


Some of his stuff is OK, but none of it is great.

And he should be disqualified from the conversation on TPC of Louisiana alone
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 1:52 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85031 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:51 pm to
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-25 will win the US Open this year
How do you think the US Open makes their courses difficult? God damn, you are dumb.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32537 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:52 pm to
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Only 7000 yards therefore it sucks and -25 will win the US Open this year


Congrats on being a retard and derailing 2 threads
Posted by Rusty Scroggins
Member since Feb 2019
197 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:54 pm to
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How do you think the US Open makes their courses difficult?


Wind, uneven lies, and hard small greens that where you are in the fairway from matters?
Posted by TheMailman
Member since Jul 2017
1550 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:58 pm to
A Seth Raynor design.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85031 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:59 pm to
You think Pebble normally plays hard don't you?
Posted by Rusty Scroggins
Member since Feb 2019
197 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:01 pm to
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You think Pebble normally plays hard don't you?


Not particularly hard, especially when it's soft.

Hard /= good either way though.

Torrey is hard, Torrey also sucks.

Long hard golf courses can be very good. Example A Bethpage.
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3495 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:05 pm to
I agree with a lot of what you've said about design and layout but...
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Long hard golf courses can be very good. Example A Bethpage.

you do know who did the redesign?
Posted by Rusty Scroggins
Member since Feb 2019
197 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

you do know who did the redesign?


Yes and it's worse than it was, but it's still good. A broken clock is right twice a day.
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3495 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:07 pm to
I took a trip to Streamsong somewhat recently and it's got much of what you've described. I really enjoyed the red and blue courses, didn't get to play the black.
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3495 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:11 pm to
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TheMailman

go frick yourself on the ladies tees
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