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Trying to create more lag creating more problems
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:54 pm
I have a decent swing and strike the ball fairly well, but recently I've tried to get more lag and compress the ball more. I am able to hit more crisp shots, but doing this slows down my swing and I actually lose distance.
Do I just need to stick with the swing changes longer? Or am I doing something wrong?
Do I just need to stick with the swing changes longer? Or am I doing something wrong?
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:31 pm to WaWaWeeWa
If you’re happy with the way you were previously hitting the ball, then that’s all that matters. People search for a decent swing for years, sometimes their entire lives. If you’ve got one already, I’d learn to be content with it and accept and enjoy your game for what it is.
It doesn’t sound like more lag is really all that needed in order to drastically improve your game. You don’t want to lose all that’s good about your swing for an extra 5-10 yards.
Just my two cents
It doesn’t sound like more lag is really all that needed in order to drastically improve your game. You don’t want to lose all that’s good about your swing for an extra 5-10 yards.
Just my two cents
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 7/12/18 at 11:28 pm to WaWaWeeWa
It is hard to get the body to repeat a move that feels unnatural. Thats why Furyk and trevino swing the way they do.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:52 am to TXGunslinger10
What this guy said. Went from shooting mid 80s... try to get a steeper backswing but couldn’t shallownthe club out easily from there...started coming over the top...then throw casting into the equation. I was a mess.
Stopped worry about the backswing and focused on making solid contact again
I have a super shallow backswing and broke 80 for the first time this week from the tips.
Never chasing “the perfect swing” again
Stopped worry about the backswing and focused on making solid contact again
I have a super shallow backswing and broke 80 for the first time this week from the tips.
Never chasing “the perfect swing” again
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 12:55 am
Posted on 7/13/18 at 2:29 am to WaWaWeeWa
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I have a decent swing and strike the ball fairly well, but recently I've tried to get more lag and compress the ball more. I am able to hit more crisp shots, but doing this slows down my swing and I actually lose distance.
getting more lag is easy if you think about it conceptually in a different context. imagine you take a backswing with no club so your arms are behind you and up... if i dropped a basketball into your hands from that point and told you to throw it as far forward as you can, would you be able to even throw it straight? how about past 10 ft? if you can, you already have all the lag you'll ever need. if not, then try throwing a basketball straight and far to get that action down. then replace it with a club. you might have to change your grip and it'll probably feel incredibly weird and not at all what you're used to. but once you have the feel of the right movement, it's pretty simple.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 2:32 am
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:21 am to Masterag
But what if you come in to far from the inside?
Posted on 7/13/18 at 7:17 am to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:02 am to CoachChappy
Not trying to reinvent the wheel. I’m looking for a lower more penetrating ball flight, instead of the high ballooning flight I currently have. I was just trying to keep my current distance (~160 yd 8 iron) but improve ball flight and control. I have a tendency to hit high fades.
I’m not understanding the basketball concept. Is there a video of that anywhere?
I’m not understanding the basketball concept. Is there a video of that anywhere?
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:08 am to Masterag
My grip was very weak so I strengthened it and my clubface is closing better with more lag, better ball flight, and straighter shots.
However, I feel like I can’t swing as fast as I did before. I guess my question is do I need to just stick it out and as it becomes more natural I will be able to increase my swing speed? It just confused me because I thought that more lag and compression would atleast keep my distance the same even if I’m swinging slightly slower. Or is the effect of lag/compression somewhat exaggerated?
However, I feel like I can’t swing as fast as I did before. I guess my question is do I need to just stick it out and as it becomes more natural I will be able to increase my swing speed? It just confused me because I thought that more lag and compression would atleast keep my distance the same even if I’m swinging slightly slower. Or is the effect of lag/compression somewhat exaggerated?
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:12 am to WaWaWeeWa
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I am able to hit more crisp shots, but doing this slows down my swing and I actually lose distance
Then you are doing it incorrectly
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:18 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Not trying to reinvent the wheel. I’m looking for a lower more penetrating ball flight, instead of the high ballooning flight I currently have. I was just trying to keep my current distance (~160 yd 8 iron) but improve ball flight and control. I have a tendency to hit high fades.
More lag could actually hurt you in this aspect if you don't flatten out your swing through impact. If you create lag that brings the club in steep you will generate spin which will promote the balloon shot with any wind involved and actually lose distance. Shallowing out the swing will reduce spin and produce the lower ball flight. This is why alot of pros are hitting the drivers on a slight upswing now.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:19 am to Zanzibaw
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Then you are doing it incorrectly
I definitely have less swing speed. Wondering if I’m thinking about it too much and slowing down.
Also I’m hitting shitty beat up range balls, maybe they don’t compress as much
Posted on 7/13/18 at 9:14 am to WaWaWeeWa
OP, this video put lag into a new perspective regarding balance point of the stick and how pulling it through the swing rather than swinging it creates effortless lag. About 10 minutes long and well worth it.
Top Speed Golf - Double your golf swing lag
And if you dont have 10 minutes to watch, here is the 4 minute of drills video that use the above video concepts.
Top Speed Golf - 4 minute drill
ETA: Added a shorter video for all you adhd baws
Top Speed Golf - Double your golf swing lag
And if you dont have 10 minutes to watch, here is the 4 minute of drills video that use the above video concepts.
Top Speed Golf - 4 minute drill
ETA: Added a shorter video for all you adhd baws
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 9:17 am
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:10 am to WaWaWeeWa
Lag is a product of proper sequencing/mechanics. Trying to manufacture it will only cause problems.
Maybe your new swing is correct and you were getting more distance using the old swing but sacrificing accuracy.
Maybe your new swing is correct and you were getting more distance using the old swing but sacrificing accuracy.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:10 am to WaWaWeeWa
I would find a PGA Teaching Pro and get counsel from them.
And the fix won’t be 1 or 2 stops at the range with him - develop a plan and stick with it.
#whatislag?
And the fix won’t be 1 or 2 stops at the range with him - develop a plan and stick with it.
#whatislag?
Posted on 7/13/18 at 1:09 pm to Tyga Woods
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Lag is a product of proper sequencing/mechanics. Trying to manufacture it will only cause problems.
This is what I’m thinking
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:33 pm to TaderSalad
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But what if you come in to far from the inside?
the more inside you take the club, the farther away from the ball you'll need to be. but, you still need to make sure your focus is not the actual ball, but moving the ball forward.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:01 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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My grip was very weak so I strengthened it and my clubface is closing better with more lag, better ball flight, and straighter shots.
good deal!
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However, I feel like I can’t swing as fast as I did before. I guess my question is do I need to just stick it out and as it becomes more natural I will be able to increase my swing speed? It just confused me because I thought that more lag and compression would atleast keep my distance the same even if I’m swinging slightly slower. Or is the effect of lag/compression somewhat exaggerated?
you can definitely speed up the swing, but you have to do it in a particular manner, and at the right time.
but i'm still not sure you've got the feeling i was talking about. have you tried throwing clubs? that's probably the best drill you could ever do if you haven't.
LINK
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:49 pm to Masterag
That video is hilarious. I’ll have to get some beat up clubs from the pawn shop
You have definitely been helpful
You have definitely been helpful
Posted on 7/14/18 at 10:41 am to Masterag
If throwing clubs helped with lag, then my sand wedge would be my 150 yd club.
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