re: Tips for my son

Tell him to take up smoking instead.

It’s healthier.

Just kidding.

Learn to hit it hard first then learn how to tighten it in. Slow, non aggressive swingers struggle to learn how to hit the ball harder later in life. It’s better to get those muscles firing together when you’re young, they will stay with you as you progress and grow stronger.

It’s much easier to dial it back than it is to dial it up.

Thanks everyone. Going to book him a lesson with Rob. Start YouTubing speed/distance drills on YouTube. He’s got pretty good distance (IMO) for his size. Was hitting his 3 wood consistently around 175 yards. It’s his favorite to hit I know he’s gotta a little more in there too. So going to try and get him to 200

give him a 6 iron and tell him to make it work......ALL SHOTS

Stay away from you tube.

Down vote away but YouTube is a rabbit hole you don't want to go down while teaching a junior.
Go see Rob, and trust it. He's only taught D1 golfers and pro's at every level.

Jus booked the initial evaluation with Rob.

My two cents are

1. Take as many lessons from the nearby coach as budget allows

2. Buy a moderate priced launch monitor such as the Mevo and buy a really good tripod from Amazon such as the one I linked to

Ensure the data and positions particularly P3-P6 are where they should be

This can track progress - honestly now you can enter data into chat gpt and or grok and get a very good analysis- also put the notes from the coach into the same AI chat and you can monitor progress

If you read my thread on swing shallowing- my daughter did this a complete swing rebuild from right before Christmas through next week and will fly to see her coach for only the second time over this process - I was very surprised but it does work

Best Tripod for golf swings

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Whatever works best for a given player. Some golfers are very technical. They like positions.

Other golfers subscribe to the thought that the golf swing is a continuous motion which is difficult to breakdown into many parts. Setup and swing to target. That’s about all of the thinking I can do over a shot. The golf swing is a short interval of time. I don’t think I could achieve P1-P6 thinking about it, but I’m sure there are golfers who literally know exactly where the club is at all times. They probably have some sort of next level proprioception

Nobody is right or wrong. Just different points of view as to how they best send a golf ball to a target.

Whether you are a “swing has parts” or a “swing is continuous motion”; both require a solid setup.

My two cents to the young player starting out is to build a good setup and swing to the target.

Ernest Jones and Manuel de la Torres are some teachers who were in the “swing is motion” camp.

I bet the tours have plenty of technical and feel players. I’m sure that many do a mixture of both.

I’m sure the technical data can help some golfers. I also think it can be information overload for some players.

Ultimately, whether you hit balls on a range to targets or use simulator/launch monitors, one needs to get on the course and take the exam.

It’s good there are options for golfers to work to get better.

Maybe the arccos is sort of a blended option, collection of data while playing. (It’s illegal for tournament play- I’m not sure why?are they afraid they will look at the data while playing?)

Does anyone use arccos? Has it helped your swing?