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Skins game questions
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:13 am
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:13 am
You would think that such a simple concept of rewarding a winner or a tie on each hole could get so convoluted sometimes.
I think our problem is that we allow a Engineer to calculate the winnings.
So my question is how do most of you guys play it and are there any special twists that might you include.
We play a dollar a hole. No carry overs.
So my thinking is -
That before we tee off, every player owes the pot 18 dollars. 72.00 per foursome.
Then a winning Birdie should count as a double skin and an winning eagle should count as a triple skin. If by chance there were 2 birdies on a hole, then each birdie would only get 1 skin because of a push.
Does anyone create a separate birdie pool or a junk pool that would include sandies, snake, whales, etc.. is that a better way to reward Birdies, etc... ?
I think our problem is that we allow a Engineer to calculate the winnings.
So my question is how do most of you guys play it and are there any special twists that might you include.
We play a dollar a hole. No carry overs.
So my thinking is -
That before we tee off, every player owes the pot 18 dollars. 72.00 per foursome.
Then a winning Birdie should count as a double skin and an winning eagle should count as a triple skin. If by chance there were 2 birdies on a hole, then each birdie would only get 1 skin because of a push.
Does anyone create a separate birdie pool or a junk pool that would include sandies, snake, whales, etc.. is that a better way to reward Birdies, etc... ?
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 10:14 am
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:23 am to bopper50
A dollar a hole no carry overs means you get to the club house and reward the sole lowest score on any hole a dollar and that's it.
Are you an engineer? Sounds like you're wanting to play skins plus add an additional game rewarding birdies and eagles.
We pay $1 for each birdie, $5 per eagle and $25 per double eagle and hole in ones.
Closest I ever came to a hole in one was when we had 11 guys in the group.
Are you an engineer? Sounds like you're wanting to play skins plus add an additional game rewarding birdies and eagles.
We pay $1 for each birdie, $5 per eagle and $25 per double eagle and hole in ones.
Closest I ever came to a hole in one was when we had 11 guys in the group.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:25 am to bopper50
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That before we tee off, every player owes the pot 18 dollars. 72.00 per foursome.
Then a winning Birdie should count as a double skin and an winning eagle should count as a triple skin. If by chance there were 2 birdies on a hole, then each birdie would only get 1 skin because of a push.
I think you'd run into issues with these two items. Instead of everyone owing $18 dollars, it should be that everyone owes the number of skins that were won, then the payout is to give the winners their share of the pot.
Player A wins 2 skins without a birdie
Player B wins 3 skins, but one is a birdie, so he actually has 4
Player C wins no skins.
In total, you have 6 skins won. So, everyone puts $6 in the pot to get to $18. Player A gets 2/6 of the $18, or $6. Player B gets 4/6, or $12.
I just think owing money to start will create confusion because there may not be a skin on every hole and there may be multiple skins on a hole due to your multiplier.
ETA: Having reread your post, everyone chipping in the amount beforehand would work. I was thinking a skin is a $1 a person, but a skin could just be worth 1 fraction of the total pot. So, it could be worth half the pot or 1/18.
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 10:40 am
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:32 am to bopper50
One thing I've noticed for certain is that different groups have their own variations of skins with the add-ons, etc.
Personal opinion is skins games should include carry overs to really get a good pucker. Standing over a birdie putt with 5 carry overs on the line is where you find out how much of a man you are
Personal opinion is skins games should include carry overs to really get a good pucker. Standing over a birdie putt with 5 carry overs on the line is where you find out how much of a man you are
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:37 am to BenDover
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Personal opinion is skins games should include carry overs to really get a good pucker. Standing over a birdie putt with 5 carry overs on the line is where you find out how much of a man you are
I think his game he is talking about has multiple groups playing at once. Carry overs don't really work in that scenario. I do agree if you are playing skins in a single group, that carry overs are the only way to do it.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:38 am to BenDover
I do like carry overs. Like you said, it increases the pressure to sink putts the more carry overs there are. In one group we'll do a 3-2-1 carryover. A skin is worth $3, if you carry over the next skin is worth $5 and if it carries over to a third the skin is worth $6.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 11:04 am to DestrehanTiger
I see what your saying.
My thoughts were, the pot is worth $ 72.00.
At the end if there were only 2 holes won and the rest pushed with no carry overs , those 2 skins would payout $36.00.
My thoughts were, the pot is worth $ 72.00.
At the end if there were only 2 holes won and the rest pushed with no carry overs , those 2 skins would payout $36.00.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 11:08 am to bopper50
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At the end if there were only 2 holes won and the rest pushed with no carry overs , those 2 skins would payout $36.00.
Right, I realized that after making my long post. I actually think it makes more sense to do it your way so it's clear how much everyone owes.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:21 pm to DestrehanTiger
Yes.
But some in the group says that with only 2 skins in the same scenario, they would only pay $2.00 plus any birdie or junk.
I see it both ways. So is it better to have a 18 hole pot to start with or just pay as we go hole by hole.
It's funny, no matter how much money a guy might have, he will squeal like a baby if he has to pay a dollar more...
But some in the group says that with only 2 skins in the same scenario, they would only pay $2.00 plus any birdie or junk.
I see it both ways. So is it better to have a 18 hole pot to start with or just pay as we go hole by hole.
It's funny, no matter how much money a guy might have, he will squeal like a baby if he has to pay a dollar more...
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:19 pm to bopper50
I don’t understand how a single person hasn’t said you can’t have two skins on a hole. If two people walk up and hole out tee shots it doesn’t matter. The hole is tied and no skin is rewarded. It’s a concept as old as time.
So a dollar a hole skins game with no carry overs you can lose between 0-18 dollars.
So a dollar a hole skins game with no carry overs you can lose between 0-18 dollars.
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:24 pm to FishQuiz
I never said on the same hole. I meant 2 skins overall.
My main question was do most create a total pot before teeing off or just pay off each hole.
It makes a big difference in the money payoit.
My main question was do most create a total pot before teeing off or just pay off each hole.
It makes a big difference in the money payoit.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 7:08 am to bopper50
Our group normally does $20 for skins and $20 for Par 3’s. Skins amount depends on how many total players (usually 8 of us in two groups), and we do rollovers if it’s a push.
Par 3’s are $5 per hole, closest to the pin wins it. But you have to make par at a minimum.
It’s not a lot of money and usually it just gets spent towards drinks in the clubhouse afterwards
Par 3’s are $5 per hole, closest to the pin wins it. But you have to make par at a minimum.
It’s not a lot of money and usually it just gets spent towards drinks in the clubhouse afterwards
Posted on 6/29/24 at 8:20 am to htcthc321
That's what I am aiming for whith my group.
A decent game where nobody gets hurt too bad or at least gets a drink or two out of it at the end.
A decent game where nobody gets hurt too bad or at least gets a drink or two out of it at the end.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:44 am to htcthc321
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Skins amount depends on how many total players (usually 8 of us in two groups), and we do rollovers if it’s a push.
My only problem with this is that nobody typically knows when rollovers are happening. It's fun in single groups because people are aware and the pressure ramps up. With two groups, you just notice when somebody is tallying in the grill room.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:14 am to bopper50
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We play a dollar a hole. No carry overs. So my thinking is - That before we tee off, every player owes the pot 18 dollars. 72.00 per foursome.
If you’re not carrying over, and it’s by hole then there is no pot. You just owe the amount per skin.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 5:44 am to Zanzibaw
I am not sure what is so difficult about how you are playing your skins game with no carry over.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 7:47 am to bopper50
I play in 3 different groups. They put up 5 or 10 bucks per round for skins. Par or birdie skins count as 1 skin. Eagles count as 2 skins. Total the number of skins and divide the pot total by that number. If there are 28 guys at $5 each and 7 skins, the pool is $140, and each skin pays $20. Each group has tiny variations. In one group 3 birdies in a row will get you 3 skins regardless of how others play those 3 holes.
We also play an individual game . Each player has a quota based on past play. All 3 groups are 1 pt bogey, 2 pts par, 4 pts birdie, and 6 pts for an eagle. If your quota is 30 and you get 35, you are +5. The number of places we pay depends on the group size. Adjustments are made after each round. There is a one pt adjustment per 3 points over or under total. +3 goes up a pt, +6 goes up 2, -3 goes down 1, etc.
Everyone likes this format. Guys that need lower quotas are more likely to win individual prizes, and guys with higher quotas are more likely to win skins.
We also play an individual game . Each player has a quota based on past play. All 3 groups are 1 pt bogey, 2 pts par, 4 pts birdie, and 6 pts for an eagle. If your quota is 30 and you get 35, you are +5. The number of places we pay depends on the group size. Adjustments are made after each round. There is a one pt adjustment per 3 points over or under total. +3 goes up a pt, +6 goes up 2, -3 goes down 1, etc.
Everyone likes this format. Guys that need lower quotas are more likely to win individual prizes, and guys with higher quotas are more likely to win skins.
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