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New Rules of Golf Finalized, Jan 2019 go into effect
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:09 am
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:09 am
Golf Digest
No more penalty for a double hit
No penalty for grounding club or moving impediments in hazard areas (not bunkers)
Can drop from knee height
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Most notably, the USGA and R&A have written a local rule that permits committees to allow golfers an alternative to the stroke-and-distance penalty for lost balls or balls hit out of bounds. Under the local rule, which is not intended for professional or elite-level competition, golfers can opt to drop the ball in the vicinity of where they lost or hit the ball out of bounds—including in the nearest fairway area—under a two-stroke penalty. “This addresses the issue you hear at the club level about the practical nature of going back and playing under stroke and distance just doesn’t work. It has a negative impact on pace of play, and so how can we introduce something to resolve that. That’s what this local rule is about,” said Thomas Pagel, USGA senior director of Rules & Amateur Status. “You simply estimate where it’s out of bounds or where you ball is likely to be lost, you can go all the way out to the fairway and drop anywhere behind. … But the primary objective here is to keep the player moving forward, and we think that’s the real benefit of this.”
No more penalty for a double hit
No penalty for grounding club or moving impediments in hazard areas (not bunkers)
Can drop from knee height
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:26 am to ell_13
The OB/Lost bal rule is the most interesting to me... 2 shot penalty, but you can take it all the out to the fairway, no closer to the hole. That’s a good trade off, because it gives you a fighting chance to make a bogey.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:31 am to dpd901
They actually listened to the feedback. I'm shocked. Added the local rule for stroke and distance, knee height for drops instead any height. I'm still not sold on the flagstick rule for competitive golf.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:36 am to hehateme2285
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I'm still not sold on the flagstick rule for competitive golf.
Yeah, I don’t see the need for that. It’s not gonna save any time because some people might prefer it in, others out. Might be a PITA if 2 from a foursome want it in and 2 out. People will be tending flags instead of getting ready to putt.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:37 am to hehateme2285
quote:I think it just adds flexibility for speed of play. Instead of having to tend a flag for a guy across the green, he can simply putt while the rest prepare for theirs. Really helpful in a two-man group.
I'm still not sold on the flagstick rule for competitive golf.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:38 am to dpd901
quote:That's the opposite of what the rules is for. You don't have to tend the flag.
People will be tending flags instead of getting ready to putt.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:42 am to hehateme2285
So I assume each club will have to expressly adopt the local rule for OB/lost balls.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:52 am to ell_13
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I think it just adds flexibility for speed of play. Instead of having to tend a flag for a guy across the green, he can simply putt while the rest prepare for theirs. Really helpful in a two-man group.
It's fine for a local game. It's dumb at a high level. If an event has the greens at a 12-13 and you hit it above the hole, you shouldn't be able to leave the flag in to potentially stop it.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:55 am to ell_13
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That's the opposite of what the rules is for. You don't have to tend the flag.
So, if a guy in your foursome decides they want it in, you’re gonna tell him to frick off?
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:55 am to hehateme2285
quote:Are you simply saying this because of tradition? It's not a problem with chips when you have the choice. They're just expanding that to the green. I don't think it's a rule meant to give anyone an advantage especially on a ball rolling rather than one bouncing. In fact, I think it would hurt rather than help. Pretty sure there was a stud done.
you shouldn't be able to leave the flag in to potentially stop it.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:56 am to dpd901
quote:Just like if he was on the fringe, if he wants it in, he goes first.
So, if a guy in your foursome decides they want it in, you’re gonna tell him to frick off?
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:58 am to ell_13
I don't like putting with pin in. It distracts me from my line.
I would likely only use it off the green per the current rules.
I would likely only use it off the green per the current rules.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:59 am to ell_13
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Just like if he was on the fringe, if he wants it in, he goes first.
So on every hole, you’re going to poll everyone in the group to see who wants it in and who wants it out, and let all the “ins” putt first? Regardless of who’s away?
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:59 am to dpd901
Look guy
Share your grievances with the committee
Share your grievances with the committee
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:00 am to dpd901
I would rather they just treat OB as a lateral hazard. Drop within two club lengths from where it entered, with a one stroke penalty.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:07 am to dpd901
quote:This pretty much already happens naturally. You are acting like no one talks on the way to the green. People on the fringe, the furthest guy away. There's usually a question about whether or not someone needs the flag in. I honestly don't see the big deal.
So on every hole, you’re going to poll everyone in the group to see who wants it in and who wants it out, and let all the “ins” putt first? Regardless of who’s away?
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:13 am to ell_13
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fact, I think it would hurt rather than help. Pretty sure there was a stud done.
I remember reading about some study in Golf Digest. I believe leave fig in if you can was best. Unless it was leaning towards you.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:13 am to eye dentist43
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would rather they just treat OB as a lateral hazard. Drop within two club lengths from where it entered, with a one stroke penalty.
The problem with that is with a lateral, you have the option of playing the ball as it lies with no penalty (provided you can find it). So it would have to be a completely seperate rule for OB because of private property, etc...
I would agree with you on that though. Why is going OB any worse skill wise than hitting it into a lake? It’s not. Also, if you whiff on the tee, you’re laying 1. If you hit one 300 and it gets a bad kick OB, you’re laying 2. That never seemed square to me.
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