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re: Greystone Golf and CC: Bayou 4-Ball August 25-26

Posted on 8/27/18 at 9:20 am to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87205 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 9:20 am to
quote:

I'm a 10.6 and shot 75 Saturday
1 in 536 odds.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 9:25 am to
What was your odds on that 69?



ETA:

*were
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 9:28 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87205 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 9:35 am to
1 in 151.

Way better odds than making birdie on the last 5 holes to do it.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87205 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:17 am to
quote:

As a 5 index, I feel like I shoot 77 or better around 20% of the time.
20% is about right according to the odds. And a lot of it has to do with how often you get to play and which way you're trending.

but generally speaking, a 10 shouldn't be shooting close to par in tournament conditions.
Posted by Lollipop Jones
Amite, LA
Member since Jul 2017
544 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:55 am to
That 5th flight 70-70 is pretty impressive.
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:16 am to
Fair enough. We didn’t keep individual scores on Sat but I would have shot 87 with my ball. My best score out there is an 80. My GCAT index from a few years ago was 9.9. I told them 10. I don’t play as well now because I only play maybe once a month. I can shoot in the 70s on occasion however.
When I booked our team he asked our index. My teammate has a 7.9 at Fernwood CC. I told them 8 for him. They placed us in a flight based on that.
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3704 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 12:58 pm to
if y'all want to see some real sandbagging go look at LGA Net Amateur results
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3704 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:08 pm to
the guy that won the LGA net amatuer has 20 rounds in the last 2 months posted with incredible consistency in that 18 of the 20 rounds were 82-85. The other two rounds were an 81 and 87. Almost as if he just put in a bunch of scores recently to get a handicap where he wanted. After remarkable consistency he manages to fire 77 and 76 on consecutive days under tournament conditions.

ETA his handicap index history is also laughable if you look it up on GHIN
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 1:33 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87205 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:17 pm to
It's worse and more apparent if you do more digging.

His last tournament scores were 75/77 back in June...

And if you check his index from the past year:

1/15: 5.0
2/1: 5.0
2/15: 5.0
3/1: 5.0
3/15: 5.0
4/1: 5.0
4/15: 4.8
5/1: 4.8
5/15: 4.8
6/1: 4.8
6/15: 4.8
7/1: 4.8
7/15: 4.8
8/1: 5.4
8/15 9.2

So yeah... he put in a ton of scores between the first of august and the 15th to nearly double his handicap. Can the LGA do anything?

ETA: He "managed" to play 11 full rounds in 15 days at the beginning of August... that's certainly impressive
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 1:25 pm
Posted by tigercraig
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
3755 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:24 pm to
Obvious fraud is obvious
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3704 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:36 pm to
I'd assume almost every winner of the LGA net amateur was either intentionally sandbagging, like this case, or doesn't have a handicap and came up with a number that he thought would be his actual handicap but isn't.
Posted by TheMailman
Member since Jul 2017
1550 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:47 pm to
There is some jealous mofos up in here
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87205 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:50 pm to
are*

And that's an odd statement considering how obvious Daniel was with his scores.
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3704 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:51 pm to
I've never, nor will I ever play in a net tournament like that one. Only fair way to do those tourneys is the way Greystone 4 ball went, with divisions flighted by handicap and then play strictly gross. I just think ppl should call out obvious cheaters, it ruins events for others that spent time and money and came with a legit handicap
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87205 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:01 pm to
Also found this gem:

quote:

Theriot carded eleven birdies and two eagles total for the weekend.


But he's a 9.2...
Posted by TheMailman
Member since Jul 2017
1550 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:04 pm to
Dude, they played from like 6200 yards

ETA: those stats were net not gross
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 2:09 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87205 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:07 pm to
Okay, Daniel.

Seriously, that may be the worst defense you could possibly have in a tournament. Golf course length is overrated af. And it still doesn't (and can't) explain your BS index over the last year and how you were suddenly able to play 11 times in half a month just before the next revision... Dude.


ETA: nice edit from "We" to "They"
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 2:08 pm
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

nice edit from "We" to "They"


Got heem
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5292 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Dude, they played from like 6200 yards

ETA: those stats were net not gross


He jumped to a 9.2 from a 5.4 in one revision. That takes sheer effort to do, and knowing how to manipulate the handicap system.
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3704 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

Dude, we played from like 6200 yards

most of his scores in GHIN are from TPC LA players and tournament/players tees. The posted distances from those tees are 6172 and 6374. So it wasn't even a short set up for you...
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