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re: DeChambeau is winning The Masters

Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by STLhog
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:13 pm to
This.

And the greens he was "gaining" strokes on this weekend were a joke. Yea he was better than everyone else but who was even out there this weekend?

When this Wolfe dude is in contention, I know its a joke of a tournament and that ridiculous swing.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:15 pm to
Man Matt Wolfe is legit as hell
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:15 pm to
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And the greens he was "gaining" strokes on this weekend were a joke.


I dont think you know how strokes gained works
Posted by Zzyzx
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:41 pm to
If he were “legit as hell” you probably wouldn’t have spelled his name wrong.

Not knocking you specifically, just saying to the larger point that when we think that people are “legit as hell” everyone knows how to spell their name. Hell even a hard name like DeChambeau.

So no, Matthew Wolff is not a “legit as hell“ golfer. He is “aight”. He came up with all the other kids that are hot right now, and he hasn’t been as good as them.

He is a good golfer for sure, and still very young, but he’s certainly not one of the better golfers on tour right now by any stretch of the imagination.


Wolff, Kisner, Armour, McNeally, Willet (aside from his fluke Masters), Straka, Merrit, Norlander, Jonathan Byrd, Tom Lewis, Seamus Power, Mark Hubbard, Lucas Glover, Lanto Griffin, Werenski, Ventura, List, Kirk, hell even maybe another overrated guy in Webb Simpson.

None of those dudes are really competing in any Majors. They also were Bryson’s stiffest competition this past weekend since all of those guys finished T21 or better.

When Bryson comes up against a locked in TALENTED field. He won’t finish top 10


This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Zanzibaw
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:42 pm to
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hell even maybe another overrated guy in Webb Simpson.
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None of those dudes are really competing in any Majors.


Webb Simpson won a major and a Players'...
Posted by Zzyzx
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:45 pm to
Yes I realize he had a flukey one like Willet. That’s why I only tangentially added him at the end. He’s another guy like Bryson though that will fade out when the bigger fish enter the pond

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I will say tho, he has a much better pedigree than Bryson because of how good is iron play is. Just saying to my larger point that he’s another one of these guys who feeds on smaller tournament success for the most part. His iron game has allowed him to compete much better than Bryson in the majors and obviously won an US Open a long time ago
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:47 pm to
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When Bryson comes up against a locked in TALENTED field. He won’t finish top 10


Hes won 2 FedEx cup playoff events and The Memorial which is one of the premier tournaments on Tour.

I dont like the guy either, but he's objectively really, really talented.
Posted by Zanzibaw
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:48 pm to
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Yes I realize he had a flukey one like Willet. That’s why I only tangentially added him at the end. He’s another guy like Bryson though that will fade out when the bigger fish enter the pond


What about his Players'? What about him winning twice in 2020?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:49 pm to
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Yes I realize he had a flukey one like Willet. That’s why I only tangentially added him at the end. He’s another guy like Bryson though that will fade out when the bigger fish enter the pond


Webb is one of the best ball strikers on Tour and has been in the mix in almost every tournament he's played for like 3 years.

It sounds like everyone is just "alright" unless they are a top 15 player of all time


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I will say tho, he has a much better pedigree than Bryson because of how good is iron play is. Just saying to my larger point that he’s another one of these guys who feeds on smaller tournament success for the most part. His iron game has allowed him to compete much better than Bryson in the majors and obviously won an US Open a long time ago


Dude, Bryson is 26
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:53 pm to
I think Webb certainly has a better track record than Bryson. I’ve amended my comment above. Webb won his Major with a putter that’s now banned, but he’s really turned a corner putting and obviously his iron play has allowed him to compete in all the majors.

But to your point, the top 15 players (not of all time obviously) will be competing in these tournaments. He isn’t as good as them
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:54 pm to
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But to your point, the top 15 players (not of all time obviously) will be competing in these tournaments. He isn’t as good as them


Bryson is absolutely a top 15 player in the world. Nothing you say can be taken seriously

You selectively aren't replaying to a bunch of the posts that clearly prove you wrong as well. You keep posting as if Bryson has a couple of opposite field event wins and act like he should have some outstanding pedigree after like 4 years as a pro

Dustin Johnson had less wins that Bryson at age 26 and Bryson's wins are at better tournaments.
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 2:59 pm
Posted by Zanzibaw
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:55 pm to
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But to your point, the top 15 players (not of all time obviously) will be competing in these tournaments. He isn’t as good as them


Webb and Bryson are both in that top 15. 4th and 7th respectively. You are an idiot.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:01 pm to
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Man Matt Wolfe is legit as hell


Seems like a cool enough guy.

I'm just a dick and a purist, I know its annoying AF and I like talking shite. Adam Scott and his beautiful swing are ruined for me by that stupid putter for example.

And yes, fully understand both would obliterate 99% of golfer out there.
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Hamma1122
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:03 pm to
Nah Experience wins at Augusta not longest ball
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:05 pm to
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Nah Experience wins at Augusta not longest ball


He's played it 3 times and made the cut every time
Posted by STLhog
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:09 pm to
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and The Memorial which is one of the premier tournaments on Tour.


He won a playoff against vaunted opponents Kyle Stanley and An Byeong-hun. If memory serves me right, he was way up in the fedex cup in points and then choked to like 20th or something in the Tour Championship out of 30.

Again, to the others posters points, when the top 5-10 are locked in and going at it, he's nowhere to be found.

He cleans up in these rest weekend tournaments that no one GAF about.

If he does something different this year, im all for having a bomber up there in contention, but he still hasn't proven it.

His track record in past majors is much more indicative than 4 tournaments this year, with zero crowd, patchy fields and I'm not sure how you can disagree with that.
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 3:10 pm
Posted by STLhog
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:10 pm to
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He's played it 3 times and made the cut every time


Ha, win is the next logical move after making the cut.

LMAO.
Posted by lsu5803tiger
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:10 pm to
Man, if Brandel Chamblee kicks the bucket, you might have a new career.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:15 pm to
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Ha, win is the next logical move after making the cut.

LMAO.


I'm just saying he's gaining experience and played well in the past. Its not like he struggles there like some guys.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:18 pm to
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He won a playoff against vaunted opponents Kyle Stanley and An Byeong-hun.


You dont even know one of the guys names.

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If memory serves me right, he was way up in the fedex cup in points and then choked to like 20th or something in the Tour Championship out of 30.


What does that have to do with him winning big events.

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Again, to the others posters points, when the top 5-10 are locked in and going at it


You mean like those 3 tournaments he's won where he beat them all? Or do they not count because those players you are talking about not play well enough to keep up with Bryson.

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His track record in past majors is much more indicative than 4 tournaments this year, with zero crowd, patchy fields and I'm not sure how you can disagree with that.


Well its hard to say that considering he's hitting the ball 7% farther than last time a major was played.

You did some serious mental gymnastics to try to make three very marquis wins sound not good.
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