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re: DeChambeau is winning The Masters

Posted on 7/5/20 at 10:59 pm to
Posted by wareagle47
Member since Dec 2009
1381 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 10:59 pm to
He won't win at the Masters, but he has a great shot at TPC Harding Park. That course fits his current game about as well as any. Either he or Koepka should be the favorite there.
Posted by 3oliv3
Member since Aug 2016
751 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 11:03 pm to
Sirs,

It appears that not a single soul has noted that MR. Lee Westwood has qualified for this Tournament of Golf and will undoubtedly triumph.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2211 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:51 am to
Tiger is an unreal ball striker. But they didn't change the course because of that. It's because he had short iron into par 5s.

Bryson is hitting it a mile and he is hitting it fairly straight.

It's like when you buy new clubs and it takes a few rounds to get a feel for how far they go. The pros, obviously, takes a little longer because they are more precise. Bryson didn't get new clubs, he got a new body, which is essentially the same thing. I think he gets the wedges dialed in and runs away with it.

And I don't know if I'd break 100 at ANGC, but it wouldn't be because I'd be missing fairways.
Posted by SmelvinRat
Slumwoody
Member since Oct 2015
1942 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 4:37 am to
quote:

I swear I have never seen someone more overhyped in any sport



Michelle Wie. She's going to play in the Masters. Or so we were lectured...
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18275 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 5:07 am to
He looks more like happy Gilmore to me
Posted by Zanzibaw
BR
Member since Jun 2016
2954 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:57 am to
quote:

Ge was 67th out of 70 in proximity and negative strokes gained approach im pretty sure. Its not like that is a given. ANGC will truly punish those shots


He was 96th in SG Around the green, and 112th in Driving Accuracy. 370 yds is cool but 370 yds sideways at Augusta is in the pine trees.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18769 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 7:54 am to
Aren’t his wedges setup with graphite shafts? He’s never going to get those dialed in that way and as others have said, Augusta going to eat him alive if he’s putting from 20-25 feet out after those shots.

Those greens yesterday were like a muni course. His putting is better but not convinced it’s “good”. Wait until he’s putting on big time greens.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64436 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 8:07 am to
When has a bomber (besides Bubba) ever won the masters in recent history? Short game wins at Augusta.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18769 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 8:17 am to
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Short game wins at Augusta.


Yerp, and ridiculous technical recovery shots.

Both of which are not in De Bambo's arsenal.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36125 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 8:28 am to
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96th in SG Around the green, and 112th in Driving Accuracy.


Driving accuracy is a terrible stat and irrelevant. I'd look at that strokes gained around the green number again. It may be right, but I read yesterday that anything within 40 yards of the green gets automatically calculated as an approach. Since bryson had a bunch of drives that close to the green his SG approach was all messed up by the Tour. Data golf should have the correct numbers.


But you could be right, I'd just double check.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2211 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 8:29 am to
First, hitting a wedge or 9 iron to 25 feet isn't great. But when the rest of the field has 6 iron in hand, 25 feet isn't as bad in comparison.

He has graphite shafts, but that's because they are stiffer than steel. The graphite isn't the problem.

He was 58th in driver accuracy in Detroit. And that's a terrible stat because it is binary in the sense of its either in the fairway or it isn't. A much better stat is SG off the tee and he was first.

I bet he dials in the short game in the next month or two and he goes on a tear. He is hitting it long and relatively straight. Name a course that long and straight is bad for, besides Greystone. Even if he doesn't get better inside of 150, he still has a good chance to win.

I'll take him from 105 yards as opposed to Spieth from 178.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18769 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:21 am to
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I'll take him from 105 yards as opposed to Spieth from 178.


Spieth? Who is talking about him?

He's not 70 yards better than Brooks, Rory or DJ.

Whatever is going on with his wedges, its not great. If he gets it figured out, sure, he will be tough to beat but thats a big if.

Like I said, put him on some of the other tougher courses and that driving distance is going to get him into more trouble than you think.

That course yesterday had some ridiculously straight and easy par 4s. Most mid handicappers are birdie or par on those types of holes. 150 or 100 out, whatever you want to call it.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36125 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:30 am to
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Like I said, put him on some of the other tougher courses and that driving distance is going to get him into more trouble than you think.


When does driving distance ever get you in trouble?

quote:

That course yesterday had some ridiculously straight and easy par 4s.


They are straight and easy when you just hit it around and over the dogleg.
The par 5s there average 580, he was hitting like 9 iron into them.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2211 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:39 am to
He is hitting it longer than Rory, DJ, and Brooks. I'll take Bryson from 105 than I will those 3 from 130. He blew it 30 yards past where Wolff landed his ball on 18 and Wolff is long.

If they fixed his SG approach for the drivers he hit near the green, he may be losing shots, but that's because he is approaching from a shorter distance. He may not hit it as close from 105 as the average tour pro, but I think, on average, he is hitting it closer to the hole than the average pro is from where their drive lands (if that makes sense).
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36125 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:50 am to
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If they fixed his SG approach for the drivers he hit near the green, he may be losing shots, but that's because he is approaching from a shorter distance. He may not hit it as close from 105 as the average tour pro, but I think, on average, he is hitting it closer to the hole than the average pro is from where their drive lands (if that makes sense).


#1 in SG OTT and Putting
#4 in SG Tee to Green
Only lost about a tenth of a shot on approaches

LINK
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18769 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:32 am to
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When does driving distance ever get you in trouble?


when you hit the ball into the woods and can't control it.

He's won one tiny tournament this year and choked a bunch of others away with inconsistent short game down the stretch.

Like another poster said, he's never even finished top 15 in a major and suddenly he's going to win all of them when every other big time golfer is LOCKED IN?

Ya'll need to chill TF out.

Rory is set to win every major, every year heading into Augusta and still chokes the hell out of them and he's won 5.

When he wins one, or even finishes top 305 with his new chunk, then we I will start to get onboard.
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 10:33 am
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58302 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:35 am to
Im not sure how he can roll with those long arse wedges with his swing speed.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18769 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:37 am to
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Im not sure how he can roll with those long arse wedges with his swing speed.



I shouldn't care but its incredibly annoying.

Along with his stupid arse putter. God that thing triggers me.
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
2208 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:37 am to
He isn’t winning any major while hitting wedges to 15-30 feet. You can get away with some of that at these courses but it ain’t happening at Augusta or any other course during a major.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58302 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:38 am to
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Along with his stupid arse putter. God that thing triggers me.

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