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re: Being consistent with my driver

Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:37 pm to
When driving gets fricked up a lot of times it's allignemnt.

Tons of people are bad at alignment, including myself.

You could make the greatest swing in the world but if alignment is off it doesn't matter.

Next time on range place down to clubs or go by two cheap driveway markers from a hardware store and set up a hitting station and ingrain the feel of proper alignemnt.
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

My problem with the driver is casting and getting contact toward the heal causing a fade.


Cause your transition is to quick, let your hands drop instead of trying to swing from the top.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86857 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:47 pm to
When I slow down my tempo, I cast worse and I feel out of sync.

it took a lot of work for me to get the feel right because I'd played only baseball for so long. I used to come down very steep with hip sway. I rarely hit a driver back then but I only played a couple times a year.
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:54 pm to
Get an Orange Whip and swing it about 15-25 times a day it will be impossible to cast and you will get a feel for the proper feel of loading the shaft and not casting.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86857 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:57 pm to
I'm describing problems I had and sometimes come up depending on the shot I'm trying to hit. Talking maybe once or twice a round.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6607 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:11 pm to
don't thrust your butt up and at the ball - turn from right to left...not thrusting your lower body and butt up from position....check your club handle at delivery - get it at address position when going through the ball....
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118108 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:21 pm to
Can you describe your routine for setting up to the ball?
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
21855 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:25 pm to
My problem is the oldest one in golf. On the range, my drives are flawless. 280 with a little draw. I can draw or fade on demand. There are times where I put the driver back in the bag because I can't find anything else to work on. However, when I step on to the first tee, that consistency suddenly vanishes. In my head, everything changes. This shot suddenly counts and the pressure starts to build. Push right. Hook Left. The frustration mounts and the problem and pressure only get worse with every hole.

It's 100% mental with me and I don't feel that way about any other shot on the course. Like many of you, if I could just get the ball in the fairway, life would be so much easier.





Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19316 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 11:02 pm to
Slow it down and smooth it out.

280 in the fairway > 300 in the trees.

Admittedly since I got older I can't whip it past parallel at the top anymore, but since I slowed the takeaway down I can still hit it 260 and I'm hitting about 80% of my fairways. My misses are pretty close the majority of the time I do miss.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 11:18 pm to
Interesting.
Mid irons are my happy zone thanks to club pro.

Get lessons on mid irons. That will reduce pressure to drive so far you can use an 8 iron.

You are scoring low for someone without control of driver and mid irons. Must be a heck of a putter.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
38544 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 11:45 pm to
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Being consistent with my driver by UpToPar
I hit moonshot slices with my driver (and sometimes my irons). Somebody tell my what I can do to fix it.




Do they start on your intended target line, or left or right of it? Are you left or right handed?

Without knowing what your ball flight is and assuming right handed....
If it starts left of your intended line and curves right, you're over the top with a clubface that is open in relation to the path.
If it starts right of your path and curves further right, you're coming too far from the inside with a clubface too open in relation to the path.



Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
32697 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 6:57 am to
quote:


You are scoring low for someone without control of driver and mid irons. Must be a heck of a putter.

I'm not saying I have absolutely no control, just that if I'm hitting a mid iron my next shot is often a chip not a putt
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22301 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 7:15 am to
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If it starts left of your intended line and curves right, you're over the top with a clubface that is open in relation to the path.


This is my problem. I try to really exaggerate turning the club face over but that only seems to make things worse. I think this makes it worse because the more I try to roll my wrist over the more my swing path is right to left through the ball.

I need some drills to, (1) help me get my club face square through the ball and (2) get my swing path on plane.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
14581 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 7:17 am to
Biggest key for me on the driver is alignment and set up. With the ball further up in the stance, it's easy to have your shoulders face in towards the ball and not square with your line. This is the cause of most people's problems chopping across the ball or coming in too steep. First thing I check when my driver gets lost is set up and making sure everything is in line with my target and not the ball.

Also, some problem come from being too far from the ball at address. Both arms should hang directly down perpendicular to the ground. The more they stretch out the more likely you are to bring the club back too flat causing you to chop across the ball creating a strong pull or slice.

Also keep the left hip out in front of your hands at address.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 8:06 am
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
38544 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:12 am to
quote:

This is my problem. I try to really exaggerate turning the club face over but that only seems to make things worse.


If it is starting left of your line, you're swinging from out to in if you're right handed.

Looking at your swing from down the line, imagine a brick wall from the heel of your right foot, going straight up. Make sure at the top of your swing that your hands get to the wall, which would be depth. On the first move down, don't let your hands leave the wall, they should drop straight down the wall as your body begins to turn. In actuality, this won't happen but it'll feel that way. You'll start to hit some inside-out push slices, then you can work on fixing the clubface to straighten it out. Trying to manipulate the clubface with your hands and wrists is not the way to go and will never end well. Let me know if I can help.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 8:13 am
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22301 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:55 am to
quote:

Looking at your swing from down the line, imagine a brick wall from the heel of your right foot, going straight up. Make sure at the top of your swing that your hands get to the wall, which would be depth. On the first move down, don't let your hands leave the wall, they should drop straight down the wall as your body begins to turn. In actuality, this won't happen but it'll feel that way. You'll start to hit some inside-out push slices, then you can work on fixing the clubface to straighten it out.


Thanks. I'll try this next time I go to the range. I think if have a slow motion video of my swing I'll try to throw up here when I get home tonight.

quote:

Trying to manipulate the clubface with your hands and wrists is not the way to go and will never end well


So, what's the best way to make sure the club face is square through impact? Grip? I think my grip may be too weak, which doesn't help.

I need to take a lesson or two.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
38544 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:04 am to
If your grip is neutral to slightly strong, the clubface will square itself. Gotta get the path cleaned up and then match the face to path to get the ball flight you want. There should be some clockwise rotation of the left arm from shoulder socket to elbow in the backswing. A little bit of counter clockwise in the downswing that should happen automagically as long as there is no manipulation or tension. That'll square the face up
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 9:06 am
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
57141 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:18 am to
quote:

My problem is the oldest one in golf. On the range, my drives are flawless. 280 with a little draw. I can draw or fade on demand. There are times where I put the driver back in the bag because I can't find anything else to work on. However, when I step on to the first tee, that consistency suddenly vanishes. In my head, everything changes. This shot suddenly counts and the pressure starts to build. Push right. Hook Left. The frustration mounts and the problem and pressure only get worse with every hole.

It's 100% mental with me and I don't feel that way about any other shot on the course. Like many of you, if I could just get the ball in the fairway, life would be so much easier.




this is why golf is the greatest game on Earth.
Posted by Tchoup
Member since Feb 2017
33 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:22 am to
Any tips for topping with a driver?
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
38544 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Any tips for topping with a driver?


Could be as simple as the ball too far forward in your stance. Move the ball back a little and see what happens.

Could be goat humpin', which is when your midsection moves closer to the ball in the downswing, causing you to get taller into Impact. Try taking some swings and feel like there's a wall against your arse, keep your arse on the wall through transition and into the downswing. That'll keep you from standing up.

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