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namvet6566
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Anyone play the new course at City Park?
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BlastOff
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
Just Ok, green complexes are average, not a “fun” course to play. It has been in good shape each time I’ve played it though, so that’s a plus.


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Front9Bandit
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
Ok course, huge greens that have always rolled well when I’ve played it, conditions are good, not really a challenging course, haven’t been in awhile and hear it takes forever to play out there now per a thread last week. I have always played it as early as possible and usually done before noon, destroy some blue oak after the round, it’s close by.


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medtiger
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
If you played at City Park before Katrina, you'll be impressed with what they did with the space. Having said that, for $26 million, there should be more aesthetic additions. There are about 5-6 really cool, fun holes and about 12-13 pretty average holes, IMO. Fairways are really wide, the course itself is really wide open, and the green complexes aren't difficult at all.


MidgetGolfer
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
That blows my mind. 26mil for an average course??


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Placebeaux
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
It's not worth the hundred plus bucks they were charging a play it. The greens have a lot of Bounce to them. The times I've been out there the play is very slow. Another bad thing about the course is the practice area the driving range is the old driving range and there's no place to hit pitch shots or chip shots.


medtiger
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
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The greens have a lot of Bounce to them.


They're just firm because they're new. Same complaint the players had at Quail Hollow for the PGA Championship last year. This will improve over time.

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Another bad thing about the course is the practice area the driving range is the old driving range and there's no place to hit pitch shots or chip shots.


I don't know about the driving range, but I've heard there's a phase 2 of this development that will include improved short game areas.


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TheMailman
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
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The course itself is really wide open


I keep hearing this from people and I don't get it at all. Of the 14 non par 3 holes, 9 of them have issues if you don't hit it pretty straight. 2 other holes have issues if you hit it sideways and 3 that are wide open.

It's a long course especially this time of the year. It's a good challenge.


Navajo61490
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
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I keep hearing this from people and I don't get it at all. Of the 14 non par 3 holes, 9 of them have issues if you don't hit it pretty straight. 2 other holes have issues if you hit it sideways and 3 that are wide open.

It's a long course especially this time of the year. It's a good challenge.


Oh look, its Mailman coming into a golf thread to disagree with everyone and turn this place into a war zone


TheMailman
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
I'm just saying that it's not wide open. In fact of the four better courses on the city (TPC, ET, Lakewood) - it's the tightest one.
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
I’ve played it a few times and always enjoyed it. Greens are very firm but as noted that’s because theyre new. I don’t really agree with the guys who say it’s not a challenge, but that’s their opinion.

I haven’t paid 100 to play it yet, you can usually find a deal.
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
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In fact of the four better courses on the city (TPC, ET, Lakewood) - it's the tightest one.


Have played TPC, Bayou Oaks and ET all in last few weeks. Bayou Oaks is definitely the widest of them all. ET has water hugging pretty much every fairway a lot closer than BO.

I haven't gone OB off the tee at Bayou Oaks yet, and do at least once a round at other courses.

I like BO, fair and fun layout.


TheMailman
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
Other courses do have OB and other hazards off the tee but you always have shots to the greens. At bayou oaks you have to hit the fairway on holes 1, 4,6, 8, 9, 10, 13,15 & 16 or you may be blocked by trees on your second shot. Even if you hit the fairways on some of those holes you can be blocked out.

I also like the layout and thinks is a fun track.

ETA: where have you got it OB at English Turn??? I can't recall any hole having OB. Same thing at TPC (I guess numbers 1, 10, 11)
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Swagga
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
I think Bayou Oaks could grow the rough out and punish you off the tee a good bit. I’m not sure they want to do that to the amateurs who come through there though.


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medtiger
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
If you think Bayou Oaks South is more wide open than TPC LA, I don't know what to say. There is so much trouble awaiting offline shots on that course, that your statement makes me question if we're talking about the same course. At Bayou Oaks, yeah, there are trees in your way if you get off line, but the fairways are really wide. And there is usually a bailout side that will give you a longer approach, but you won't be in a bunker or other hazard if you miss it there.

I'm not saying Bayou Oaks is a cakewalk course. The par 3s might be the most difficult on one course in the city. My main complaint is the lack of aesthetics for the money spent. As stated, they could do some things to make it really difficult between length, rough, adding bunkers, etc. There just isn't a huge premium on driving it super straight though.


TheMailman
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
I think you had a typo. I am saying bayou Oaks is a more challenging off the tee than TPC. I agree that that some holes lack aesthetics. I do know that on at least one occasion/hole that they spent upwards of $700k to bring in trees to line the fairway and those tress died before the course was opened.

Let's look at the two courses you mentioned:
TPC first:
#1 fairly open off the tee - you could be blocked out if you hit it way off line
#2 really open off the tee - you have to get really unlucky to be blocked out on the second shot (I never have)
#4 pretty tight with water right and bunkers left
#5 fairly open off the tee - could be blocked out with a wayward push off the tee
#6 - tight driving hole
#7 - wide open
#8 - wide open
#10 - wide open
#11 - wide open
#12 - fairly open but you can be blocked out with a push drive
#13- wide open
#15- Fairly open but again may be blocked out with a big slice
#16- tight driving hole
#18- pretty open but may fine water with a big slice
TPC : 3 / 5 / 6 (tight / open / in between)

Bayou Oaks:
#1 - tight driving hole
#3 - pretty open - you could find water with a slice
#4 - tight driving hole
#5 - wide open
#6 - tight driving hole
#8 - tight driving hole
#9 - pretty open - however you can be blocked out left and right
#10 - tight driving hole
#11 - pretty open - water left
#12 - wide open
#13- tight driving hole
#15 - tight driving hole
#16 - tight driving hole
#18 - wide open
Bayou Oaks 8 / 4 / 2 (tight / open / in between)

In my opinion bayou Oaks is a harder driving course than TPC. And harder course to score, all in. I haven't heard of a really low score being shot there. What's the course record? I honestly don't know. 67?

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TitleistProV1X
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
Bayou Oaks is a very solid course that is as challenging or easy as you want it to be. There’s 7 sets of tees so if you find it easy the first time you play just step back another tee. I’ve brought tour pros out to BO and have played it from the back plates many times and every one of them struggles to go very low. The greens are typically the best rolling around and have softened up a ton. I don’t find the pace of play slow at all, typically it’s fairly empty and we’re always joking that they must be losing so much money with the amount of play they get.

It’s a good course but so is TPC, ET, and Lakewood. Glad to have another option.


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medtiger
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
You're right...typo. Meant to say that I don't see how you can say TPC is more wide open than Bayou Oaks.

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In my opinion bayou Oaks is a harder driving course than TPC.


This just blows my mind that you're saying this. I guess you aren't taking TPCs gigantic bunkers into account when you're talking about holes being wide open. There's more than just being "blocked out" that can make a hole difficult off the tee.

TPC #1 - the tour pros hit 3 wood off that tee routinely because it is a pretty demanding tee shot. And you can go OB left or be blocked out by trees 10 yards off the fairway right.

TPC #2 - More open than 1, but again huge bunker left and pot bunkers right.

TPC #7 - Not overly difficult, but bunkers in play all over. Bail out left, but it lengthens the hole a good bit.

TPC #8 - See what I said about #1. Why don't the tour pros hit driver there and get within 50 yards of the green or closer if it's wide open. It just isn't.

TPC #12 - Might be the most difficult part 4 in the city because you have to hit a great drive to have 180-190 to the green. Definition of a tough driving hole with bunker left and trees right.


City Park #1 - agree...hardest driving hole on the course. But there is a bailout way right with an open shot. Impossible to hit it OB.

City Park #4 - Trees right, you can hit it to the road left and still see the green.

City Park #6 - Good driving hole with trees left and bunkers right. Same hole as #1, except maybe a little shorter.

City Park #8 - Tighter, but plenty of room to bail out left and still have a wide open shot, and it's a 300 yard hole. Most hit hybrid or iron off the tee. Just not very difficult off the tee.

City Park #10 - There's more room here than it looks off the tee, but there's definitely trouble. Driving is a premium here, so no real argument.

City Park #11 - Maybe the widest fairway in the city. Trees right can block you, but there's 75 yards between the trees right and water left.

City Park #13 - Great hole all around, and the tee shot is difficult.

City Park #15 - definition of wide open. The only trouble is a fairway bunker. You could hit it 50-60 yards left on that hole and find your ball in play with a shot at the green. I have no idea why you think that's a tight hole. The fairway isn't even narrow.

City Park #16 - Like #8, it's a hybrid or iron unless you're trying to drive the green over the water, so it's really not that difficult of a driving hole. Risk/reward, yes. But it's an easy par if that's what you're playing for.

As far as scoring goes, I played in the mid-am held at both courses over the past 3 years. At City Park, the event was shortened to 36 holes, and there were 9 guys under par with the winner -6 after 2 days. At TPC, there were 3 guys under par after 54 holes with the winner -4. The cut was 159 at TPC, and it would have been 153 at City Park. There is literally no measurable statistic that shows that TPC is an easier course than City Park.
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TheMailman
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
They played the mid am pretty short at bayou oaks and the course played really soft and ball in hand.

You can be in the fairway on 4 & 15 at bayou oaks and not have a shot at the green.

I know the course record for a amateur at TPC is like 62. I wonder what it is a bayou Oaks ?
We will just have to agree to disagree.
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Sherman Klump
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re: Anyone play the new course at City Park?
I can’t really understand how you think bayou oaks is tighter off the tee when compared to Tpc or ET.

I mean if we just look at hole 1 at all theee courses, bayou oaks is by far the easiest off the tee.


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