Anyone play the new course at City Park?

Ok course, huge greens that have always rolled well when I’ve played it, conditions are good, not really a challenging course, haven’t been in awhile and hear it takes forever to play out there now per a thread last week. I have always played it as early as possible and usually done before noon, destroy some blue oak after the round, it’s close by.

That blows my mind. 26mil for an average course??

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The greens have a lot of Bounce to them.

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They're just firm because they're new. Same complaint the players had at Quail Hollow for the PGA Championship last year. This will improve over time.

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Another bad thing about the course is the practice area the driving range is the old driving range and there's no place to hit pitch shots or chip shots.

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I don't know about the driving range, but I've heard there's a phase 2 of this development that will include improved short game areas.

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I keep hearing this from people and I don't get it at all. Of the 14 non par 3 holes, 9 of them have issues if you don't hit it pretty straight. 2 other holes have issues if you hit it sideways and 3 that are wide open.

It's a long course especially this time of the year. It's a good challenge.

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Oh look, its Mailman coming into a golf thread to disagree with everyone and turn this place into a war zone

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In fact of the four better courses on the city (TPC, ET, Lakewood) - it's the tightest one.

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Have played TPC, Bayou Oaks and ET all in last few weeks. Bayou Oaks is definitely the widest of them all. ET has water hugging pretty much every fairway a lot closer than BO.

I haven't gone OB off the tee at Bayou Oaks yet, and do at least once a round at other courses.

I like BO, fair and fun layout.

I think Bayou Oaks could grow the rough out and punish you off the tee a good bit. I’m not sure they want to do that to the amateurs who come through there though.

I think you had a typo. I am saying bayou Oaks is a more challenging off the tee than TPC. I agree that that some holes lack aesthetics. I do know that on at least one occasion/hole that they spent upwards of $700k to bring in trees to line the fairway and those tress died before the course was opened.

Let's look at the two courses you mentioned:
TPC first:
#1 fairly open off the tee - you could be blocked out if you hit it way off line
#2 really open off the tee - you have to get really unlucky to be blocked out on the second shot (I never have)
#4 pretty tight with water right and bunkers left
#5 fairly open off the tee - could be blocked out with a wayward push off the tee
#6 - tight driving hole
#7 - wide open
#8 - wide open
#10 - wide open
#11 - wide open
#12 - fairly open but you can be blocked out with a push drive
#13- wide open
#15- Fairly open but again may be blocked out with a big slice
#16- tight driving hole
#18- pretty open but may fine water with a big slice
TPC : 3 / 5 / 6 (tight / open / in between)

Bayou Oaks:
#1 - tight driving hole
#3 - pretty open - you could find water with a slice
#4 - tight driving hole
#5 - wide open
#6 - tight driving hole
#8 - tight driving hole
#9 - pretty open - however you can be blocked out left and right
#10 - tight driving hole
#11 - pretty open - water left
#12 - wide open
#13- tight driving hole
#15 - tight driving hole
#16 - tight driving hole
#18 - wide open
Bayou Oaks 8 / 4 / 2 (tight / open / in between)

In my opinion bayou Oaks is a harder driving course than TPC. And harder course to score, all in. I haven't heard of a really low score being shot there. What's the course record? I honestly don't know. 67?

You're right...typo. Meant to say that I don't see how you can say TPC is more wide open than Bayou Oaks.

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In my opinion bayou Oaks is a harder driving course than TPC.

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This just blows my mind that you're saying this. I guess you aren't taking TPCs gigantic bunkers into account when you're talking about holes being wide open. There's more than just being "blocked out" that can make a hole difficult off the tee.

TPC #1 - the tour pros hit 3 wood off that tee routinely because it is a pretty demanding tee shot. And you can go OB left or be blocked out by trees 10 yards off the fairway right.

TPC #2 - More open than 1, but again huge bunker left and pot bunkers right.

TPC #7 - Not overly difficult, but bunkers in play all over. Bail out left, but it lengthens the hole a good bit.

TPC #8 - See what I said about #1. Why don't the tour pros hit driver there and get within 50 yards of the green or closer if it's wide open. It just isn't.

TPC #12 - Might be the most difficult part 4 in the city because you have to hit a great drive to have 180-190 to the green. Definition of a tough driving hole with bunker left and trees right.


City Park #1 - agree...hardest driving hole on the course. But there is a bailout way right with an open shot. Impossible to hit it OB.

City Park #4 - Trees right, you can hit it to the road left and still see the green.

City Park #6 - Good driving hole with trees left and bunkers right. Same hole as #1, except maybe a little shorter.

City Park #8 - Tighter, but plenty of room to bail out left and still have a wide open shot, and it's a 300 yard hole. Most hit hybrid or iron off the tee. Just not very difficult off the tee.

City Park #10 - There's more room here than it looks off the tee, but there's definitely trouble. Driving is a premium here, so no real argument.

City Park #11 - Maybe the widest fairway in the city. Trees right can block you, but there's 75 yards between the trees right and water left.

City Park #13 - Great hole all around, and the tee shot is difficult.

City Park #15 - definition of wide open. The only trouble is a fairway bunker. You could hit it 50-60 yards left on that hole and find your ball in play with a shot at the green. I have no idea why you think that's a tight hole. The fairway isn't even narrow.

City Park #16 - Like #8, it's a hybrid or iron unless you're trying to drive the green over the water, so it's really not that difficult of a driving hole. Risk/reward, yes. But it's an easy par if that's what you're playing for.

As far as scoring goes, I played in the mid-am held at both courses over the past 3 years. At City Park, the event was shortened to 36 holes, and there were 9 guys under par with the winner -6 after 2 days. At TPC, there were 3 guys under par after 54 holes with the winner -4. The cut was 159 at TPC, and it would have been 153 at City Park. There is literally no measurable statistic that shows that TPC is an easier course than City Park.

I can’t really understand how you think bayou oaks is tighter off the tee when compared to Tpc or ET.

I mean if we just look at hole 1 at all theee courses, bayou oaks is by far the easiest off the tee.