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re: Sony State of Play Tomorrow June 4th

Posted on 6/5/25 at 12:19 am to
Posted by Carson123987
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 12:19 am to
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Even though Nioh, Nioh 2, and Wo Long were all a little samey, I will def. be getting Nioh 3, because I just find the gameplay so fun and because they are actually challenging compared to most games. They have a couple new wrinkles each game as well. I hope if anything they upped the difficulty. Wo Long was way too easy, there were only 2 bosses that were even remotely challenging.

As mentioned already, the biggest thing to work on is the environmental variety. 90% of the levels need not not villages or fortresses. When they do something besides that, those end up being the best levels.


Almost done with the demo. It's just more of the copy paste shite. Most of the yokai are the exact same with the same combos and whatnot. Beat the living frick out of Mezuki despite being incredibly underleveled solely because I have muscle memory of all his combos from 2.

I think I'm just over the Nioh formula. I refuse to do games with significant loot management anymore and I'm just tired of the tedium. Copy paste environments and enemies but with additional systems tacked on to the previous ones. Got a soul core? Just put it in your onmyo box and slot it in a yin or yang position and then assign it to your quick menu! Destroyed a crucible spike? Your spirit force and guardian attack have increased! Oh it was a lesser crucible spike? That means you have more amrita spawning near the lesser crucible site. Got some life corrosion? Go pray to the jizo statue in your region. You're constantly assaulted by countless tooltips and explanation/tutorial blocks to the point where they lose all meaning.

Other than that, it's standard Nioh fare. Pick up a gazillion different items, most of which you don't even know what they do and dont care to check. Have to stop every 2 minutes and open your equipment menu to see if the new sword you picked up is marginally better thanks to a 1.2% strong attack increase. Same old kodama hunting/blessings, same skill trees (Iai Quickdraw still GOAT), lots of new open areas with boilerplate open world mechanics (instead of following a the Ghost of Tsushima fox, you follow a Scampuss that rolls around. Enemy bases to clear. Little arenas to do. Yada yada). It's just tiresome. It's really easy to see how they make these games so fast with all the copy/paste they do

On the brighter side, I really support the skill system. You have to find scrolls in the world to unlock new equippable skills at the shrines. Leads to much more rewarding exploration.

New samurai/ninja mechanic feels good but is basically a less interesting Yokai counter with some different movesets between the 2. Learn the Evade skill for Ninja tree ASAP, it's OP as shite
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 12:54 am
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 6:06 am to
So glad I recently got a PC. Sony is tanking
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
4209 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 6:18 am to
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So glad I recently got a PC. Sony is tanking


The PS5 very well might be my last PS TBH.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
16324 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 6:27 am to
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Carson123987


Pretty much all of your complaints are things I enjoy about the series
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
67786 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:21 am to
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Pretty much all of your complaints are things I enjoy about the series


100%, all the things I find tedious about it are what the most hardcore Nioh fans love about it. Yall love the minutiae and trying to find every single little edge and boost by digging deep into all these dense systems. Same with Armored Core fans. I got AC6 despite knowing that mech customization/assembly (which I knew I would just blaze through as quick as possible) is the 2nd biggest element of the game. They have mfs that will spend hours testing ACs with slight changes in parts for a minuscule edge. What keeps me coming back to games like these are the well executed core mechanics - in the case of Nioh, the satisfaction of stringing together long combos with multiple stance switches and shite. Destroying a boss with a long combo that ends with a perfectly timed Iai or Sign of the Cross will simply never get old

That’s fine, just not what I enjoy in games at this point in my life. Though I do loathe the community’s position that “the real game doesn’t start until NG+3" of whatever similar such nonsense they spew. Like 0.1% of games are worth playing that many times, much less one as dense and time consuming as Nioh
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 7:24 am
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
4209 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:40 am to
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the real game doesn’t start until NG+3


LOL yes the fans who say things like this are the absolute worst.

Another common variant is "it gets good about 20 hours in", said of many open world slog games.

The sweet spot for me for a single player game these days is about 20-50 hours of real content. Any less I feel it was too short and any more I feel is a chore. I can handle those 100+ hour games about once a year and they better be something amazing (FromSoft or BotW or something).

As for min-maxing the gear in Nioh, it's fun but I found it largely irrelevant at the end of the day because the stat bonuses are so small relative to the damage going on, it doesn't make much of a real difference. You are either good at the combat in which case your gear largely doesn't matter, or you're bad at the combat in which case your gear largely doesn't matter.
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4616 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:00 am to
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Pretty much all of your complaints are things I enjoy about the series
Right there with ya
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4616 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:03 am to
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As for min-maxing the gear in Nioh, it's fun but I found it largely irrelevant at the end of the day because the stat bonuses are so small relative to the damage going on, it doesn't make much of a real difference. You are either good at the combat in which case your gear largely doesn't matter, or you're bad at the combat in which case your gear largely doesn't matter.
Just for context, but in base game the gear basically is bigger base number and go.
As you go through the NG cycles, you have to start getting picky heavily since maintaining a proper gear set becomes critical. Not just due to numbers but also due to new mechanics etc in the NG cycles.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75052 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 8:19 pm to
I really hope Bloodstained 2 gets a Switch 2 release. The longer it goes, the higher the likelihood that I totally skip the PS5 generation.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
16324 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:07 pm to
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Even though Nioh, Nioh 2, and Wo Long were all a little samey, I will def. be getting Nioh 3, because I just find the gameplay so fun and because they are actually challenging compared to most games.


Just saw that the standard edition of Nioh 3 is $70 and the Digital Deluxe version (which includes the Season Pass for the 2 DLCs and some additional weapons and charms) is $110!!! WTF!?
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