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Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:54 am to
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:54 am to
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Debating on whether to get a new gen 3d chip or just get a 5600. Will wait until black friday to decide.


Depends heavily on what you play and the settings at which you play them.

But if you’re not budget sensitive, yolo
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:24 pm to
I play PDX games almost exclusively. So, no AVX instructions are a non-starter. It's either 3(?)-12th generation Intel or recent AMD chips.

No 13th gen.

Edit: Actually they do have avx instructions, just seems no 512 it seems.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 5:43 am
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 5:52 pm to
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I play PDX games almost exclusively. So, no AVX instructions are a non-starter. It's either 3(?)-12th generation Intel or recent AMD chips.

No 13th gen.


I've had a very long day, but with that said, I have no idea what a PDX game is. Expound?
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 12:20 am to
I believe that is Paradox Interactive.
Posted by viv1d
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:08 am to
So I have a weird technical question.

Just built a new AM5 system as follows: MSI A PRO b650m motherboard, r5 7600x, 3070, windows 10 ect.

I play on mobile hotspot as this is the only way I can play FPS games with 'low' ping. My previous laptop I had, I got stable ping, no packet loss or anything.

Since building this new PC, I am getting a constant 'packet loss out' of around 10% while tethering hotspot with USB. When I turn on the wifi mobile hotspot, the packet loss out goes away.

I have done every single thing I can think of to fix this problem, so I am wondering if windows didn't download the latest driver that pops up under network adapters in device manager or something? When I connect the tether hotspot, the usb internet driver that pops up in network adapters is from 2009.

I am lost and there is really no help topics I can find online with someone with the same problem.

Edit: I also tried every single usb port, new cable, ect
This post was edited on 1/10/23 at 10:11 am
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

So I have a weird technical question.

Just built a new AM5 system as follows: MSI A PRO b650m motherboard, r5 7600x, 3070, windows 10 ect.

I play on mobile hotspot as this is the only way I can play FPS games with 'low' ping. My previous laptop I had, I got stable ping, no packet loss or anything.

Since building this new PC, I am getting a constant 'packet loss out' of around 10% while tethering hotspot with USB. When I turn on the wifi mobile hotspot, the packet loss out goes away.

I have done every single thing I can think of to fix this problem, so I am wondering if windows didn't download the latest driver that pops up under network adapters in device manager or something? When I connect the tether hotspot, the usb internet driver that pops up in network adapters is from 2009.

I am lost and there is really no help topics I can find online with someone with the same problem.

Edit: I also tried every single usb port, new cable, ect


Never use Microsoft's chipset drivers. They are lowest common denomoniator garbage. Always go to your motherboard's website and update your drivers directly from there. For your board, it looks like this is where you should be, but obviously make sure to confirm: LINK

Make sure to update both your core chipset driver as well as the LAN drivers. If that doesn't fix your issue, come back.

ETA: If you have installed MSI Dragon Center or whatever they are calling it these days, make sure to go turn off *all* LAN management settings in there.
This post was edited on 1/10/23 at 1:05 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 11:58 pm to
Zen4 3D release officially Feb 14th.

Still no pricing.

ETA: nevermind AMD said it was an error.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 3:57 am
Posted by hoojy
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:58 pm to
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I believe that is Paradox Interactive.


Ya, Vicy 3 is AVX required instructions. EU5 will almost be likely as well.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 8:03 pm to
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Ya, Vicy 3 is AVX required instructions. EU5 will almost be likely as well.


Honest question, from someone who has only played CKII: are any of those titles particularly hardware demanding? Not that you can run them smoothly on a potato, but whether it actually matters between modern hardware.
Posted by viv1d
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 12:14 pm to
I had to return the board. Got an Asus and was up and running in 1 hr no problems.
Posted by hoojy
In the fridge with my hot sauce.
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 2:46 pm to
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Honest question, from someone who has only played CKII: are any of those titles particularly hardware demanding? Not that you can run them smoothly on a potato, but whether it actually matters between modern hardware.


The new AI changes several patches ago make the AI do way more calculations now. Wars in the late game go by slowly in a big war. EU4 doesn't have AVX instruction sets. I'd imagine EU5 will to help with that.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 4:37 pm to
GamersNexus posted his EVGA GPU Engineering team send off video and for anyone ITT that loves this stuff, it is a must watch

LINK

I am definitely going to miss EVGA making GPUs. I had a 6600 GT 1GB AGP 8x card in my very first gaming computer - basically was responsible for so many of my childhood PC gaming memories.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 8:11 pm to
That was a lot of fun. Great video
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/16/23 at 7:54 am to
Finally decided to upgrade my SFF PC.

Got a 5700x on Amazon to replace my 5600x, which I'm shipping to my brother for his build. AMD is including a free copy of CoH3 with Ryzen 5000 series CPU purchases, so essentially, I just got a 5700x for $130

Also finally gonna install the SK Hynix 2 TB NVME drive I bought over Thanksgiving

Thought about upgrading my memory too, but for now I'm gonna stick to the 16 GB DDR4-3200 CL16 HyperX sticks I have for now.

I think I'm also going to hold off on upgrading my 2070 Super as well, its not holding me back on any gaming I am doing, so I don't need to upgrade.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 8:57 pm to
Anyone who doesn’t need to upgrade GPU should absolutely hold off right now, especially with the AMD cooler/driver rumors flying around right now. I think sunny skies are ahead all around, but they aren’t here at the moment.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:51 am to
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 1/20/23 at 7:00 pm to
"NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti expected to offer RTX 3070 performance for less than $500"

fricking. Awful.

I paid "less than $500" for a 3070 over two years ago. Blows my mind that Nvidia thinks this pricing structure is at all rational.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/20/23 at 9:48 pm to
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"NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti expected to offer RTX 3070 performance for less than $500"

fricking. Awful.

I paid "less than $500" for a 3070 over two years ago. Blows my mind that Nvidia thinks this pricing structure is at all rational.


Also supposed to have less CUDA cores than a 3060ti...

And with GDDR6 memory instead of GDDR6X memory that is on several newer 3060ti cards.

Its disgusting.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 1/21/23 at 8:09 am to
I'm hoping that the mid-cycle refresh shakes things up. If not, anyone who isn't desperate for a GPU is likely better served by skipping everything this generation and just waiting until next generation.
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:27 am to
I've been able to do 90-100+ FPS at minimum on my 1440p monitor with the 2070 super on most games I play, and honestly I play a ton of single player games anyway, so Idc about giant FPS
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