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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:37 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:37 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
It's still not though. 1650 is coming out at the end of the month.
1650
1660
1660 Ti
2060
2070
2080
2080 Ti
1650
1660
1660 Ti
2060
2070
2080
2080 Ti
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:46 pm to Korin
Are you going by price or by lineup?
Price
350 is closer to 220-280 than it is to 550-600
Lineup
RTX 2060
RTX 2070
RTX 2080
RTX 2080Ti
So we have a price that correlates more towards the "budget" price you put up and the bottom of the lineup. It also falls in the natural breaks of the data for a budget price. That screams a budget product.
Price
350 is closer to 220-280 than it is to 550-600
Lineup
RTX 2060
RTX 2070
RTX 2080
RTX 2080Ti
So we have a price that correlates more towards the "budget" price you put up and the bottom of the lineup. It also falls in the natural breaks of the data for a budget price. That screams a budget product.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:49 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
You're moving the goalposts now.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:53 pm to Korin
Never did.
I put all the data in that graph for that gen. All those prices are in there. You keep moving it with a new card.
I'll allow your constant entries into the conversation as they still fit into my argument.
You're insane if you don't see the pattern moving up. Just because it wasn't budget before doesn't mean it isn't now. We have a 2080ti that is now 1200 vs the 800 it was in the 1080ti. That is a 50% increase in price. You're crazy if you don't think the market has changed.
I put all the data in that graph for that gen. All those prices are in there. You keep moving it with a new card.
I'll allow your constant entries into the conversation as they still fit into my argument.
You're insane if you don't see the pattern moving up. Just because it wasn't budget before doesn't mean it isn't now. We have a 2080ti that is now 1200 vs the 800 it was in the 1080ti. That is a 50% increase in price. You're crazy if you don't think the market has changed.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:54 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
quote:
Never did.
I'm looking at the thread right now. You've moved the goalposts to RTX only.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:56 pm to Korin
Because you keep interchanging entry level and budget. One is price and one is line up.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:58 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Only you didn't specify RTX in the original post.
The 2080 Ti vs 1080 Ti price difference is an exception and not the new norm. You said you built your first PC last year so you probably don't know that.
The 2080 Ti vs 1080 Ti price difference is an exception and not the new norm. You said you built your first PC last year so you probably don't know that.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:01 pm to Korin
I know how to do statistics though. You keep trying to stick it with PC components like it matters.
I didn't have to specify RTX. If we are talking about whenever that thread was. There wasn't even a 1660Ti yet I don't believe and definitely not a 1660 or a 1650. So the bottom was
1660Ti (if it was even available)
RTX 2060
RTX 2070
RTX 2080
RTX 2080 Ti
Titan
and at that point I said to just buy a used GTX model and save on performance.
I didn't have to specify RTX. If we are talking about whenever that thread was. There wasn't even a 1660Ti yet I don't believe and definitely not a 1660 or a 1650. So the bottom was
1660Ti (if it was even available)
RTX 2060
RTX 2070
RTX 2080
RTX 2080 Ti
Titan
and at that point I said to just buy a used GTX model and save on performance.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:02 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
With the GTX 1660 Ti coming in at the very top end of the mainstream market with a $279 price tag,
LINK
LINK
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:06 pm to Korin
You're too difficult to even argue with. You won't see it.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:07 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
So now you know more than sites that have been around for over 20 years. 
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:19 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Rtx 2060 isn't a budget card. You're not going out and getting that card on a $500 budget
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:26 pm to bluebarracuda
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL - EVO SPEAR 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 500 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($28.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card ($274.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: DIYPC - Zondda-O ATX Mid Tower Case ($30.88 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - 400 W ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $593.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-14 17:24 EDT-0400
Neither are you with a 1660ti
or a 1660
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL - EVO SPEAR 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 500 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($28.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB GAMING Video Card ($229.99 @ B&H)
Case: DIYPC - Zondda-O ATX Mid Tower Case ($30.88 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - 400 W ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $548.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-14 17:25 EDT-0400
The 2060 build was only like 60 more than the 1660ti build (is 667)
A 2070 build is 809.
593 vs 667 (smaller difference)
667 vs 809 (bigger difference)
It belongs with the budget cards.
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL - EVO SPEAR 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 500 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($28.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card ($274.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: DIYPC - Zondda-O ATX Mid Tower Case ($30.88 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - 400 W ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $593.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-14 17:24 EDT-0400
Neither are you with a 1660ti
or a 1660
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL - EVO SPEAR 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 500 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($28.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB GAMING Video Card ($229.99 @ B&H)
Case: DIYPC - Zondda-O ATX Mid Tower Case ($30.88 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - 400 W ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $548.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-14 17:25 EDT-0400
The 2060 build was only like 60 more than the 1660ti build (is 667)
A 2070 build is 809.
593 vs 667 (smaller difference)
667 vs 809 (bigger difference)
It belongs with the budget cards.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:33 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Hmm, another site that's been around for over 20 years.


Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:37 pm to Korin
I dunno what that is supposed to prove.
Best value for VR, Best value for 2k gaming, Best value for 1080p gaming?
Cause the 2080Ti does better than all of them for VR, 2k, 1080p.....
Best value for VR, Best value for 2k gaming, Best value for 1080p gaming?
Cause the 2080Ti does better than all of them for VR, 2k, 1080p.....
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:39 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
You seem to be taking this quite serious.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:42 pm to Korin
I'm really not. I wanted to end this a long time ago. If you agree to disagree, I won't bring it up anymore and we can move on.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:44 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
I mean you just told me I was too difficult to argue with and here you are again.
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