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Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:37 pm to
It's still not though. 1650 is coming out at the end of the month.

1650
1660
1660 Ti
2060
2070
2080
2080 Ti
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:46 pm to
Are you going by price or by lineup?

Price
350 is closer to 220-280 than it is to 550-600

Lineup
RTX 2060
RTX 2070
RTX 2080
RTX 2080Ti

So we have a price that correlates more towards the "budget" price you put up and the bottom of the lineup. It also falls in the natural breaks of the data for a budget price. That screams a budget product.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 3:50 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:49 pm to
You're moving the goalposts now.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:53 pm to
Never did.

I put all the data in that graph for that gen. All those prices are in there. You keep moving it with a new card.

I'll allow your constant entries into the conversation as they still fit into my argument.

You're insane if you don't see the pattern moving up. Just because it wasn't budget before doesn't mean it isn't now. We have a 2080ti that is now 1200 vs the 800 it was in the 1080ti. That is a 50% increase in price. You're crazy if you don't think the market has changed.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Never did.

I'm looking at the thread right now. You've moved the goalposts to RTX only.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:56 pm to
Because you keep interchanging entry level and budget. One is price and one is line up.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:58 pm to
Only you didn't specify RTX in the original post.
The 2080 Ti vs 1080 Ti price difference is an exception and not the new norm. You said you built your first PC last year so you probably don't know that.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:01 pm to
I know how to do statistics though. You keep trying to stick it with PC components like it matters.

I didn't have to specify RTX. If we are talking about whenever that thread was. There wasn't even a 1660Ti yet I don't believe and definitely not a 1660 or a 1650. So the bottom was

1660Ti (if it was even available)
RTX 2060
RTX 2070
RTX 2080
RTX 2080 Ti
Titan

and at that point I said to just buy a used GTX model and save on performance.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:02 pm to
With the GTX 1660 Ti coming in at the very top end of the mainstream market with a $279 price tag,

LINK

Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:06 pm to
You're too difficult to even argue with. You won't see it.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:07 pm to
So now you know more than sites that have been around for over 20 years.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:15 pm to
LINK

quote:

NVIDIA RTX 2060 hands-on: Ray-tracing on a budget


quote:

The mid-range RTX 2070 goes for around $500, while the 2080 sells for $700



I can find stuff too that goes with my argument. It's a budget card.

This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 4:17 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19514 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:19 pm to
Rtx 2060 isn't a budget card. You're not going out and getting that card on a $500 budget
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

Hu_Flung_Pu

Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:26 pm to
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL - EVO SPEAR 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 500 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($28.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card ($274.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: DIYPC - Zondda-O ATX Mid Tower Case ($30.88 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - 400 W ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $593.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-14 17:24 EDT-0400

Neither are you with a 1660ti

or a 1660

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL - EVO SPEAR 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 500 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($28.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB GAMING Video Card ($229.99 @ B&H)
Case: DIYPC - Zondda-O ATX Mid Tower Case ($30.88 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - 400 W ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $548.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-14 17:25 EDT-0400



The 2060 build was only like 60 more than the 1660ti build (is 667)

A 2070 build is 809.

593 vs 667 (smaller difference)

667 vs 809 (bigger difference)

It belongs with the budget cards.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:33 pm to
Hmm, another site that's been around for over 20 years.

Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:37 pm to
I dunno what that is supposed to prove.

Best value for VR, Best value for 2k gaming, Best value for 1080p gaming?

Cause the 2080Ti does better than all of them for VR, 2k, 1080p.....

Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:39 pm to
You seem to be taking this quite serious.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:42 pm to
I'm really not. I wanted to end this a long time ago. If you agree to disagree, I won't bring it up anymore and we can move on.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:44 pm to
I mean you just told me I was too difficult to argue with and here you are again.
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