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re: Official League of Legends Thread
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:24 am to dcrews
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:24 am to dcrews
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Just got flamed by an entire team
I don't play near as much as I used to, but the community does nothing to bring me back. I can't play games by myself anymore.
On the flip side, the crowd who calls people out for having fun are just as worse. I was playing a match the other day, after combo and ult from Brand I didn't kill a Zed, so after my Q came back up I flashed under tower and killed him, he talked mess and flamed the entire game (causing his team to lose) because "I was a try hard in norms.. comical"
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:28 am to SBvital
The community has been a big barrier in me playing recently. Putting up with flaming when I just want to chill after a day of work is just not something I want to do.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 11:43 am to dcrews
quote:I give everyone a chance. There are a few things that get instant muted. Trolling, hate speech, raging, flaming.
Does anyone else just mute all immediately when joining a game?
quote:People always believe they are better than they are and only remember the games where they went god mode. Since every game is not like that, they remain frustrated that they can't recreate the magic of that perfect game. And since no one likes to blame themselves (and therefore get better). They look for people to target as the reason.
the toxicity is getting to be ridiculous
quote:Both are to blame here. They should not dive without adc. Adc should be with main group. ADC is usually not the split pusher. sorry.
pushing bot all the way to enemy inhib as Sivir, while my team tower dives 4v5 and loses
quote:True.
If Sivir were here we would have won that
quote:Also true.
But you saw that I wasn't, so don't fight
Posted on 11/4/16 at 11:53 am to CorporateTiger
quote:Every community has the group of people that get frustrated with what everyone else is or isn't doing.
The community has been a big barrier in me playing recently. Putting up with flaming when I just want to chill after a day of work is just not something I want to do.
If you only focus on doing what you can control, it makes the game a lot better. I rarely get upset. I just finally realized that getting mad or letting it bother me didn't actually change the situation or help me to win. So, why bother.
If you have an idiot on your team, instead of playing the standard way and slowly moving towards the loss.... you have to be like, whelp, the only way to win is to change your strategy in order to minimize the damage and try to salvage the win (or decide that you are willing to just accept the loss in exchange for doing what you want).
I'll roam more to help out that lane and maybe keep it even. I'll try to monitor the jungler and make counter plays. I'll try to help the winning lane on our team snowball harder. I'll try to troll the other team and tilt them or get them to fight amongst themselves. Each game gives me a chance to do something that either helps me win or is fun. And I don't let the shitters take that from me (in addition to the 30-40 min they waste).
Making someone on the other team AFK is my favorite.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 12:13 pm to Mahootney
quote:
. ADC is usually not the split pusher. sorry.
Not typically, but 90% of the time my team is off doing jungle camps, dancing around mid or backing.
So when the team isn't grouping, I'm going push a lane. I've tried to prioritize team fights over objectives, but I lose so much farm and experience because people are so indecisive and don't do anything. Thus my time being wasted waiting for a team fight that doesn't happen.
Before I can back and get back with the team, they assemble and start fighting.
Regardless, if I'm in another lane, ping me to let me know we are going to team fight instead of forcing a disadvantageous situation.
FWIW, even if I feel someone else is out of position, I adjust, instead of flaming them about it.
This post was edited on 11/4/16 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 11/4/16 at 12:22 pm to dcrews
quote:You shouldn't clear the whole wave. Leave a few caster minions to let your wave build and push. That way after you win the fight, you have a wave crashing into the turret to either take it, or let you rotate to it and take it. That way, you are both pushing AND grouping at the same time.
I'm going push a lane.
quote:Maybe they were just trying to keep the other team busy while you were split pushing.
going to team fight instead of forcing a disadvantageous situation
Obviously, I am a huge fan of the slow minion push while grouping. Best of both worlds with just a little minion control understanding.
(This is the biggest difference I see between pro games and sub Plat games).
Posted on 11/4/16 at 12:45 pm to Mahootney
quote:
You shouldn't clear the whole wave. Leave a few caster minions to let your wave build and push. That way after you win the fight, you have a wave crashing into the turret to either take it, or let you rotate to it and take it. That way, you are both pushing AND grouping at the same time.
If I feel I can take the tower, I'm shoving.
Even still, at this elo, when people see a wave pushing their tower, they leave to go take care of it. Takes away pressure from other parts of the map.
I'm talking post laning phase.
quote:
Maybe they were just trying to keep the other team busy while you were split pushing.
To give them the benefit of the doubt, that's what I initially thought. But the constant 3v5, 4v5 fights continued when other parts of our team were either off farming, buying, etc...
If I'm mid, and someone is off doing something they shouldn't be, I still disengage knowing our probability of winning is low. Too many times people just fight it out and blame everyone else later.
quote:
Obviously, I am a huge fan of the slow minion push while grouping.
I'm the opposite. I'm a split pusher. At this elo I want to force the other team to react to me/my team (not the other way around). If there are no obvious objectives up to obtain, I'm going to push the hell out of top or bottom lane if I'm farming and I see their entire team elsewhere.
Unless it's a situation where they are approaching base and I need to back. Can't stand people who leave a lane to "Come help", but by the time they get there, the damage has been done and we got nothing for it.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 4:25 pm to Mahootney
Yeah it isn't really upsetting for me, but it also just doesn't really give me what I want out of a game if that makes sense.
Posted on 11/5/16 at 1:29 am to CorporateTiger
Played Zyra for the first time tonight.
Stupid strong all around.
Stupid strong all around.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:11 pm to dcrews
Told you. Rylais = win.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:10 am to Mahootney
I usually go Liandry's Torment first (after the AP sightstone item and boots)
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:10 am to dcrews
quote:Not bad, but you need the utility to offset not being tanky as a support.
I usually go Liandry's Torment first (after the AP sightstone item and boots)
Rylais plus plants gives great engage/disengage.
So instead of tanking the damage, you are mitigating it by stopping it from coming in.
The Liandry's damage is nice, but you shouldn't be trying to do mid-lane damage unless you are snowballing early.
BTW, I 100% agree with sightstone first. Spellthiefs into Lvl 1 boots/SS/pink.
I like to get 1 of 2 items next: a NLR for damage if doing well in lane... or a giants belt for health if not doing well.
Finish Rylais, then build haunting guise.
By this point, I feel like I can completely control the game by either getting picks or keeping the other team off of anyone on my team.
The hard part is getting there as a support. I have to try to get roaming gold or KS a little to complete my items before the game is over.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:19 am to Mahootney
quote:
BTW, I 100% agree with sightstone first.
You lose out on a lot of gold poke and damage for some vision really early in the game. Zyra is a carry support so prioritizing vision early negates some of her strengths.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:13 pm to LSUSaintsHornets
I'm a warding machine. While I love her damage, I feel I can bring enough to the early game with my abilities, ignite, and thunderlords.
With how aggro I am as support zyra, I want that extra vision.
I'll try ryalis first and see how it goes. The magic pen boots into Liandry's makes for nice early pen.
With how aggro I am as support zyra, I want that extra vision.
I'll try ryalis first and see how it goes. The magic pen boots into Liandry's makes for nice early pen.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:47 pm to LSUSaintsHornets
quote:I play her more as a utility control mage rather than a carry. There is more risk/reward as a damage build, but with soloQ usually having 2-3 damage sources already, I don't try to usurp those roles. I take exhaust and not ignite. I don't feel the need to build full damage early unless I have enough on first back for NLR or god-forbid HG. I hit hard enough pre-6 that the improved vision is more valuable in how I use it.
You lose out on a lot of gold poke and damage for some vision really early in the game. Zyra is a carry support so prioritizing vision early negates some of her strengths.
It's not a SS in the traditional sense, but more of a play-making tool.
S6 has made it very important to synergize with your jungler. SS gets me and the jungler into their jungle, and a sweeper+pink allows me to roam for kills mid. (My favorite gank is a pincer move. Their mid escapes through river towards bot only to be snared. pure tilt
). Although you are right that 2 trinkets bot is usually enough to avoid ganks, I've found that damage doesn't help against smart bot lanes. They just hug their turret, you usually don't get kills, and it would have been better to help mid/jungle snowball anyway.
I guess I just play more of a macro style than a lane style. Or it can be that I can never count on my ADC to carry. It takes too long to get going.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:58 pm to dcrews
quote:This is usually true. It's hard to stop the plants from pushing the lane.
With how aggro I am as support zyra, I want that extra vision.
I just push out and roam mid/jungle. I'm usually back by the next wave or two. If my adc can't make it one wave without me, it's over anyway.
Plus, plants can tank the dragon. So, me and the jungler can solo it super early using the bot lane pressure and enemy jungle vision.
quote:Yes, it's fun hitting like a truck, but I've just found more success not focusing solely on bot lane. My fed ADC still gets stomped by the fed top laner or jungler.
I'll try ryalis first and see how it goes. The magic pen boots into Liandry's makes for nice early pen.
So, the insane peel of putting down Rylais plants is the best peel I've found.... period.
One janna tornado does nothing, and a monsoon has a high cool down.
Alistar only has a small AOE knockup, and single target headbutt.
Nami has to hit the bubble and the wave is a long CD.
Every plant hit procs Rylais. I can stop a whole team dead in it's tracks with a few plants. Then once I finish HGuise. It really hurts too.
Saving stupid teammates when they are stupid. And helping timid teams initiate. I can help my scrub Silver teammates way easier by slowing the opponents down for them instead of giving slightly more DPS or having a slightly higher CS bot lane (if the dumb adc can even cs).
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:18 pm to dcrews
You can still get early sightstone just never buy it before frostfang.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:00 pm to LSUSaintsHornets
quote:Oh for sure. That's a no brainier. I just mean ss as support before damage items like HGuise or Rylais.
You can still get early sightstone just never buy it before frostfang
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:47 pm to LSUSaintsHornets
quote:
You can still get early sightstone just never buy it before frostfang.
By the time I back, I typically have enough for both.
I typically play top or adc, so lately as I've been playing support, I've been aggro as frick, which is why I've come to like Zyra.
I also need to keep playing talon. I know he's getting re-worked, but my playstyle as a main laner lends itself to being passive, scaling, split pushing, etc... I'm not a very aggressive player.
But with the incoming assassin patch, I feel like I should switch gears to either get on board with the new meta or at least gain a better understanding of it by playing as an assassin.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:41 pm to dcrews
Why people in this community join a game, then walk away from their PC for 10 minutes?
Don't join the fricking queue if you have shite to do
Don't join the fricking queue if you have shite to do
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