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Posted on 12/29/15 at 12:13 am to
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
45059 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 12:13 am to
The Sandy coves convalescent home is one of the creepiest places I've found so far.

Eerie
Posted by Gugich22
Who Dat Nation
Member since Jan 2006
27775 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 1:02 am to
Do you just stumble upon these weapons or do you get them by completing quests?
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
45059 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:10 am to
Spray and pray and overseers guardian came from vendors.


I just spent way too much time running power, power conduits, switches, and ceiling fans to all my settlement Shacks.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9217 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 4:05 am to
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Someone beat the game without a single kill. This sounds entertaining and like a big pain in the arse at the same time.


Screw all that nonsense. But that does kinda highlight the fact that while Fallout 4 is a decent game overall, it's a terrible Fallout game.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 5:03 am to
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Screw all that nonsense. But that does kinda highlight the fact that while Fallout 4 is a decent game overall, it's a terrible Fallout game.




How so?
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
54936 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:17 am to
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Screw all that nonsense. But that does kinda highlight the fact that while Fallout 4 is a decent game overall, it's a terrible Fallout game.


Please explain.
Posted by Large Farva
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
8594 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:25 am to
Is there a way to easily obtain bottle caps in settlements? In Assassins Creed you upgrade houses and you receive income throughout the day. Is there a way to do that in your settlements in F4?
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
54936 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:32 am to
Build a water purifier, get purified water from salvage rack and sell it.
Posted by Devious
Elitist
Member since Dec 2010
29323 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:33 am to
I think he meant Fallout Shelter is a terrible Fallout game
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40392 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:35 am to
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Is there a way to easily obtain bottle caps in settlements? In Assassins Creed you upgrade houses and you receive income throughout the day. Is there a way to do that in your settlements in F4?


Yes. Build a bar. I don't know how much you get per day but I typically have between 300 to 1500 in each settlement when I finally swing by to pick it up.

Caps don't pool. You need to pick them up from each settlement.

I think you get caps from all of the stores.

I have at least a Bar and a Trader in each settlement.
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 8:37 am
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
36437 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:43 am to
Every one of my bars has a woman in just her underwear working it. It helps the sales.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40392 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:49 am to
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
45059 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:52 am to
Now that I've figured out power..getting all kinds of ideas.

Gonna turn hangmans alley into a downtown nightclub.

Will have:
Jukebox
Strobe light
Bar
Clinic (for anyone who may od on chems)
Laser turrets
Chill out room for those coming down, with a tv
Some terminals with colored lightboxes
Cigarette machine
Ashtrays
Ice box filled with purified water

All settlers in dresses or tuxedos , aside from a bouncer or two with shotguns . Heck I'll send Strong there.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40392 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:57 am to
I'm in the slow grueling process of rebuilding settlements.

I have my massive Spectacle Island compound laid out the way I want it.

Last night I did several raider raids to gather up guns, then did the gun scrap trick to get The Castle below half max. Used concrete base to patch all of the holes. Tore down most of the building I had started. Tonight I will start laying down the electrical grid so I can hide all of the generators out of sight.
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15243 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:59 am to
The OG fallout games provided multiple avenues to resolve conflicts from major quests all the way down to minor stuff. In fallout 4, the Kellogg encounter is a great example of what has changed.

You can:

A. Respond Angrily and initiate combat
B. Respond sarcastically and initiate combat
C. Respond in a boring manner and initiate combat
D. Respond with a question and initiate combat

All roads to the same outcome. Maybe you could talk the guy or down or sympathize with what brought him to this point? But no, you have four different ways that all lead to the same outcome. Fallout 4 made huge improvements with the shooting mechanics and settlement building but the "soul" of fallout (multiple outcomes) seems to have been scrapped along the way.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
45059 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:18 am to
Where's a good place to farm concrete ?

Im having way too much fun creating fully hidden completely integrated electrical grids.
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 11:22 am
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40392 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:34 am to
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Where's a good place to farm concrete ?


I have no clue how I have so much concrete. You get it for scrapping buildings in settlements. Also you find bags of concrete.

When I return to sanctuary, I have a trader store set up next to my spawn spot. Also Carla shows up at Sanctuary. I buy all junk from both of them.

Also buy all junk from the trader and the gun guy in Diamond City.

Just read the wife at Abernathy farm sells concrete. I'll start hitting her up since I almost live there because they can't stop raiders or having people kidnapped.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
24678 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:23 pm to
frick that. a-hole killed my wife and gave no fricks. He dies. Only outcome I see

Look for the Bobbi mission in good neighbor. That's a good multiple path mission.
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 2:24 pm
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15243 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:25 pm to
Yes... Being a barbarian is certainly an option, the only option as it stands. Doesn't mean it has to end that way, I mean the guy is the only known connection to the Institute and our only choice is to end him. Seems dumb.

To quote the great Mr. House on this matter...

quote:

Sorry to deny you a moment of primate triumph, but you'll have to go elsewhere to sound your barbaric yawp
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 2:31 pm
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9217 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:37 pm to
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All roads to the same outcome. Maybe you could talk the guy or down or sympathize with what brought him to this point? But no, you have four different ways that all lead to the same outcome. Fallout 4 made huge improvements with the shooting mechanics and settlement building but the "soul" of fallout (multiple outcomes) seems to have been scrapped along the way.


sbr2 kinda sums up most of what I meant with this being a crappy Fallout game. Fallout 3 was a crappy Fallout game for many of the same reasons.

Fallout has always been about being able to play however you want and beat the game and having a true open world experience with a great story and solid dialogue options. Want to talk your way through the game? You can do that. Want to kill anyone you see and be a complete douchebag? You can do that. And anything in between.

The dialogue and story in F3 and F4 are terrible (though F3 had better of both than 4), and as sbr mentioned they force you into doing things a certain way. Bethesda always has terrible stories so it isn't surprising, but it's not really Fallout. It's more Skyrim merged with the Fallout setting. It's just particularly annoying since Fallout New Vegas did such a fantastic job with the morality system in that game and the multiple ending options for everything.

The gun/weapon modding along with improvements to npc/creature AI and shooting mechanics in F4 is really nice, but most everything else is a letdown unless you are big into the Sims/settlement aspect (which I'm pretty neutral on).

F4 is a solid game overall, just a crappy Fallout game. But so was F3.
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 2:47 pm
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