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re: Nintendo Switch: Official Thread

Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:49 pm to
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While the X1 hasn't done as well as PS4, but are absolutely huge money makers.


Yeah, I revised that. But the buy in to get to that level is expensive and doesn't change the outcome really. Is the investment worth the risk? Nintendo is wary of the cost, and wouldn't take the loss needed even in year 1-1.5.

Granted it failed but the Wii U was profitable after one game sale. The Wii from Day One.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:50 pm to
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I like how seamless they're advertising the OS, tablet to docking station, etc.


But Nintendo OS's have been subpar. I am worried about this.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:00 pm to
That 1 to 1.5 year thing you are stating is false for the PS4 also.

I don't think they every announced when it became profitable but the PS4 was profitable 6 months at the least after release. Which was confirmed by the CEO of Sony.

The Wii U was actually more costly.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:04 pm to
Vague, maybe bad, news...

LINK

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"If a Nintendo Switch game supports amiibo then the Nintendo Switch home gaming system will as well," a Nintendo representative told IGN.


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"The dock is not the main console unit of Nintendo Switch. The main unit of Nintendo Switch is the unit that has the LCD screen, which the two Joy-Con controllers can be attached to and detached from. The main function of the Nintendo Switch Dock is to provide an output to the TV, as well as charging and providing power to the system."


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According to Nintendo, the Joy-Con controllers — named Joy-Con L and Joy-Con R — will be included alongside the Nintendo Switch system.


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When asked if the Nintendo Switch will have touchscreen support, Nintendo declined to comment. "We will make additional announcements about the Nintendo Switch hardware later, before the launch of the product," Nintendo told IGN.


So:
Amiibos: Yes
Extra Power in the Dock: Sounds like a no now, but maybe
Pro Controller: Sold Separately
Touch Screen: TBD

I'm also wondering if there are different Joy Cons.... down the line. Why would they keep so much more secret?
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 5:08 pm
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:04 pm to
With that said, I do understand where that comes from because the PS3 lost a dumb amount of money per sell.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:07 pm to
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With that said, I do understand where that comes from because the PS3 lost a dumb amount of money per sell.




Yeah I was wrong about the 4. It also had a higher price point at launch than Nintendo would go for.
Posted by DieDaily
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

"If a Nintendo Switch game supports amiibo then the Nintendo Switch home gaming system will as well," a Nintendo representative told IGN.
This doesn't surprise me. After watching the video again I noticed the woman that eventually goes to the roof top party has a bunch of Amiibo's sitting right next to the Switch dock.

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When asked if the Nintendo Switch will have touchscreen support, Nintendo declined to comment. "We will make additional announcements about the Nintendo Switch hardware later, before the launch of the product," Nintendo told IGN.
If the Switch doesn't have a touch screen, even single touch, that is a HUGE missed opportunity. With the system looking to be lower in power than the PS4 or XBO, its third party support will likely always be a weakness to some extent. This can be offset, though, with Nintendo's extensive back catalog of DS and 3DS games.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:28 pm to
They may be trying to avoid affiliation with touch screen gaming for a while even if it is there.
Posted by Dr.Funke
Not a real Doctor
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:29 pm to
This is interesting and I hope people buy it. It is a neat idea.

I have started playing my 3ds again and it's awesome but I wouldn't want to carry anything bigger than that around. And playing split screen on something that's size...no thanks. I grew up playing goldeneye split screen with 4 players on an old 18 inch tv, but now I can't really enjoy split screen on a 55 inch led.


Not a fan on the controller either.

This kinda reminds me of the kinnect. It could have been awesome but just wasn't practical .

Hope it does well. I'll look for any reason to buy one
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:33 pm to
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Not a fan on the controller either.



Same shite people said about the wiiu. You can just buy a pro controller. Problem solved.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:34 pm to
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They may be trying to avoid affiliation with touch screen gaming for a while even if it is there.




This. I think they are keeping a few things to reveal after people get it.

I think there are some really good possibilities for further announcements, the aforementioned DS-like local multiplayer, Touchscreen, Specs/the dock's true power if any, Additional Joy Cons, OS and AppStore (will it have mobile gaming capabilities which would nearly require multitouch touchscreen), etc.

I think the big question, and the one that might confuse people, is the whole "merge" idea. Is this in fact a way to get things like less "graphically intensive" Nintendo handheld games like Fire Emblem, Pokemon, etc., alongside full console games on the same system. That seems to be still unclear.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:35 pm to
So basically an underpowered console once again? Really seemed like zelda was struggling to play once it was taken off the dock
Posted by Gcockboi
Rock Hill
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:35 pm to
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I have started playing my 3ds again and it's awesome but I wouldn't want to carry anything bigger than that around. And playing split screen on something that's size...no thanks. I grew up playing goldeneye split screen with 4 players on an old 18 inch tv, but now I can't really enjoy split screen on a 55 inch led.



Just buy a fanny pack, this gives me a good reason to buy myself a new one.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:48 pm to
If this thing also has the ability to function as a tablet...what does that mean
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:11 pm to
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Same shite people said about the wiiu. You can just buy a pro controller. Problem solved.

And we all saw how that turned out...
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:18 pm to
If this becomes reality, my god. I am IN. I am already encouraged by what seems to finally be a willingness on Nintendo's part to create a console capable of running games most of the good developers require.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:10 pm to
I just got home from work and saw this.

Basically me right now.

Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38371 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:25 pm to
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:29 pm to
Looks cool
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38371 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:57 pm to
Positive Article: The Nintendo Switch Was Hiding In Plain Sight All Along

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The clamshell-shaped bugger itself was more than a little strange, but the chip—Nvidia's take on the type that powers phones and tablets instead of PCs—was the secret star. It was small and efficient enough to fit in a handheld, but powerful enough to run games that looked great, and run them in high enough resolution that you could stream them to a TV. It was our first real glimpse of the trick that makes the Nintendo Switch look so great. It just didn't have the modular controllers, the stylistic fit and finish, or a historic brand name. The Shield itself never quite took off, but Nvidia kept refining the tech.

Over the years it has released new versions of the clamshell device, the Shield Tablet, and finally, a set-top box also called The Shield, which uses Nvidia's powerful Tegra X1 chip to function like a little Android-powered game console. The whole line was extremely impressive, but it never really caught on for one important reason: There wasn't anything worth playing. ...AND YOU GOTTA HAVE THE GAMES Until now, Nvidia's Tegra has been used exclusively in Android devices, and Android just doesn't have great games. Sure, it has Threes and Pokemon Go and Candy Crush and all that, but not much on the level of real consoles like the Xbox or Playstation, or real handhelds like the Playstation Vita or Nintendo's 3DS.

Meanwhile, Nintendo has had the games, but not the tech.

After decades of domination in home consoles and mobile systems, Nintendo has a bench of games that's almost absurdly deep, including ones that work on the big screen or on the go. We're talking Mario, Zelda, Metroid, and Kirby when it comes to the old standbys, as well as more modern classics like Smash Bros., Fire Emblem, Splatoon, and Pikmin. That's just scratching the surface. NINTENDO HAS HAD THE GAMES BUT NOT THE TECH. In recent years—pretty much since the wild success of the original Wii starting in 2006—Nintendo's actual hardware has been underpowered. The Wii had Wii Sports and other blockbuster hits, but never really had the horsepower to handle the Call of Duty and Skyrim titles that were melting faces on the Xbox 360 and PS3.

The Wii U couldn't stop the technological backslide. The confusingly named console hinted at a wonderful future of mixing mobile and handheld, but ultimately fell sort. Ports of popular, high-tech games were promised, but often fell through because of the console's lack of horsepower. Meanwhile, Wii U's unwieldily and large screen-controller let you play games on the go, but not without looking like a weirdo. In the end, Nintendo was left with a beefy stable of properties living on lackluster hardware.
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 7:58 pm
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