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Nintendo distributing dev kits for NX

Posted on 10/16/15 at 8:14 am
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 8:14 am
WSJ article
All I have on it since I can't read it is that they are distributing it and some think they could release as early as 2016. I also saw some tweets saying the chips are on par with current consoles.

IGN article
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sources are saying the console will come with "industry-leading chips" to ensure it can compete with PS4 and Xbox One and coax back third-party developers, as well as a "mobile unit that could either be used in conjunction with the console or taken on the road for separate use".
This post was edited on 10/16/15 at 9:13 am
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 8:42 am to
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I also saw some tweets saying the chips are on par with current consoles.


I really hope this isn't true - Nintendo has failed the last 2 generations by being underpowered, if they want to break into the real man's market, they need to be more powerful than the current ones to "stand out"

The WiiU is going to die, at least Super Mario Maker has given it a little more life before it's inevitable downfall
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 8:47 am to
I'm not sure the chip matters. People assume 3rd party will release games for them if they have better hardware but we don't really know that. They could build a better machine and it could still get ignored.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:17 am to
But think of how cool Zelda will be on a high powered machine
Posted by tconle2
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:20 am to
For 3rd party to make games for it they are going to have to sell units.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:44 am to
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For 3rd party to make games for it they are going to have to sell units.



actually it's more than that - you know that statement: "First impressions are all that matters" ? Well in the case of Nintendo, it all started back with the N64, they went cartridges when the 3rd parties wanted them to go CD - then they did the small disk on the GameCube - then they did the Motion Controls on the Wii - and then they did the touch screen tablet device on the WiiU, and an absolutely stupid naming device. Nintendo is past the "first impressions" stage, and 3rd parties just don't want anything to do with them, yes their 1st party titles sell incredible, but why would I want to waste resources on your device so I can not sell 1/10 of the same as your 1st party titles and lose money in the process?

Nintendo is going to have to absolutely blow the NX out of the ball park, or they should have never even thought about making it
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 10:04 am to
I'm not sure if I want them to suceed or just fail and go 3rd party
Posted by tconle2
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 10:27 am to
If enough people buy it and it's as powerful as the others than I don't know why 3rd party wouldn't want to make games for it.
Posted by DieDaily
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 10:27 am to
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Nintendo has failed the last 2 generations by being underpowered
The Wii obviously wasn't a failure, though it did lack staying power with many customers because of a controller gimmick that quickly grew tiresome.

The Wii U has been a failure because of terrible marketing and a serious lack of games.

And the Gamecube was "more powerful than the current ones" (the PS2 and Dreamcast) and it was considered a failure.

While I'd like the NX to be the perfect mix of power and affordability, blaming their past failures on under-powered machines, which isn't even entirely true, is an oversimplification. Furthermore, I don't know of any Wii U owners complaining about the games graphics. The games are beautiful. There just aren't enough of them.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:00 am to
This guy gets it
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:19 am to
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blaming their past failures on under-powered machines, which isn't even entirely true, is an oversimplification.


I always use that as a reason, but on my second post I actually explained it a bit more:

The Gamecube still had the problem with the small disc which 3rd parties didn't like, the Wii - the motion controls were not liked by 3rd parties... and the WiiU has just been bad because of Marketing, name recognition, and horrible horrible market share (but we are on like strike number 3 for Nintendo, I don't know if they are going to be able to hit the next pitch, and I don't know if I care at this point either :/)
Posted by Rhio
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 12:34 pm to
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And the Gamecube was "more powerful than the current ones" (the PS2 and Dreamcast) and it was considered a failure.


This. The chips inside don't matter, the PS2 was actually the least powerful of that generation.

Could Nintendo just release a game console without any gimmicks? No touch screens, no motion controls, no strange tiny disc format that nobody wants to use?

From what I hear the NX will continue their current trend . I just wish they would focus on games.
Posted by DieDaily
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 12:39 pm to
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I don't know if they are going to be able to hit the next pitch, and I don't know if I care at this point either :/
I'm also not sure they can succeed, but I am definitely rooting for them. Their games just have a level of charm and polish that most others lack. I'm not opposed to them going 3rd party but it would feel weird not having a Nintendo home console on the market. I felt the same way about Sega after the Dreamcast.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 12:40 pm to
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it would feel weird having more money in my pocket from not having to buy a Nintendo home console

Posted by DieDaily
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 1:00 pm to
True. Though, I should add...
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it would feel weird having more money in my pocket from not having to buy a Nintendo home console so I can buy more remakes of last gen games.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 1:17 pm to
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the Wii - the motion controls were not liked by 3rd parties


That was always a terrible excuse b/c they rarely made the effort to (A) try and get the motion controls to work and (B) make alternative control options w/the nunchuck or gamepad. There was nothing saying they couldn't do normal control schemes for their games. They just didn't give a frick.

Fact of the matter is 3rd party games tend to not sell well on Nintendo platforms b/c they straight up dont try to make games that are anywhere near as good as what they put on other platforms. They are almost always gimped half assed ports and gamers are smart enough to see that.
This post was edited on 10/16/15 at 1:22 pm
Posted by accnodefense
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 1:22 pm to
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them going 3rd party


Keep dreaming because it will never ever happen
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 1:28 pm to
You could make the argument that they already are by going mobile.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:23 pm to
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The Wii obviously wasn't a failure, though it did lack staying power with many customers because of a controller gimmick that quickly grew tiresome.

The Wii U has been a failure because of terrible marketing and a serious lack of games.

And the Gamecube was "more powerful than the current ones" (the PS2 and Dreamcast) and it was considered a failure.

While I'd like the NX to be the perfect mix of power and affordability, blaming their past failures on under-powered machines, which isn't even entirely true, is an oversimplification. Furthermore, I don't know of any Wii U owners complaining about the games graphics. The games are beautiful. There just aren't enough of them.


All of this.
Posted by oauron
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 3:22 pm to
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While I'd like the NX to be the perfect mix of power and affordability, blaming their past failures on under-powered machines, which isn't even entirely true, is an oversimplification. Furthermore, I don't know of any Wii U owners complaining about the games graphics. The games are beautiful. There just aren't enough of them.

The Wii U isn't under-powered because the games look bad (although it'd be nice if most games had some type of AA), it's under-powered because it's not able to run the games that are on its competition's platforms. No chance in hell a studio is going to go out of their way to make an entirely different version of the game since they can't just port it across all platforms.

If the NX is substantially weaker than the other new platforms, it'll have the same problems with getting 3rd party support.
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