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I want to expand my PS5 storage..
Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:34 pm
What’s the best advice y’all baws got?
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 12:04 am to geauxlsu07
get a pcie gen 4 m.2 ssd... you can get up to 4tbs now.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:33 am to geauxlsu07
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What’s the best advice y’all baws got?
Look here for an SSD (Newegg search).
It has to be a PCIE 4.0 x4 M.2 NVME SSD. The most popular size is 2280. You can get up to 4TB as another poster said. And it has to have a heatsink attached.
Youtube - M.2 SSD installation video
Posted on 1/3/24 at 9:54 am to geauxlsu07
hardest part was figuring out what side slides off
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:01 am to GrammarKnotsi
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hardest part was figuring out what side slides off
50/50 shot to get that right.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:35 am to geauxlsu07
Just make sure it says it’s compatible. Someone gifted me one that I went through all the trouble of installing only for it not to have something called a heatsink and it didn’t work. The one I wound up getting was the Samsung 990 Pro, I believe. It’s really good.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:45 am to SaintEB
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It has to be a PCIE 4.0 x4 M.2 NVME SSD. The most popular size is 2280. You can get up to 4TB as another poster said. And it has to have a heatsink attached.
No horse in this race, as I don't even have a PS5, but I find thermals to be a fascinating part of PC building, so genuine, but academic question:
In watching that installation video and then looking at an airflow diagram of a PS5, wouldn't a heatsink be a bit superfluous if you're going to reinstall the plate cover back over it? The bay that the m.2 drive sits in appears to be completely sealed off with no lateral airflow. If that's accurate, the only airflow would pass over the top of that original plate. So unless the OEM heatsink just happens to make perfect contact with the plate (highly unlikely), there would be practically no thermal benefit to having a heat sink at all. Either you should install a drive with a heat sink and leave the OEM cover off, or you should buy a 3rd party PS5 specific heatsink like this: LINK /
Now, this is all based on the assumption that there is no lateral airflow under that plate. And ultimately, as long as you get a good low wattage drive, it's probably fine regardless. But just thought it was interesting to look at and I'm curious if anyone has any thoughts either way
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 10:47 am
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:48 am to Joshjrn
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Now, this is all based on the assumption that there is no lateral airflow under that plate. And ultimately, as long as you get a good low wattage drive, it's probably fine regardless. But just thought it was interesting to look at and I'm curious if anyone has any thoughts either way
As I understand it, the air flow is under that plate, as to the need to reinstall it after ssd is installed.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:54 am to Froman
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Someone gifted me one that I went through all the trouble of installing only for it not to have something called a heatsink and it didn’t work.
The heatsink just cools it. If you have a PCIE 4 x 4 with at least 5500 Mb/s transfer rate, it will work. If it didn't have a heatsink, Best Buys sells this handy little device:
Insignia SSD Heatsink - $15
And usually have them in stock. Easy install and will fit the PS5.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:58 am to SaintEB
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As I understand it, the air flow is under that plate, as to the need to reinstall it after ssd is installed.
Can someone confirm this? I'm looking at youtube install videos, and every angle I can see looks like a solid wall:
(Just hit play. Videos are already queued to the correct time stamp)
LINK
LINK
I can't find a video that shows me a good look at those fins along the side or the SSD enclosure wall facing those fins, but just eyeballing it, it looks like a solid enclosure wall and those fins open up above that plate.
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 10:59 am
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:59 am to Joshjrn
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Can someone confirm this? I'm looking at youtube install videos, and every angle I can see looks like a solid wall:
I can't. I thought I read that somewhere. I want to believe it as Sony requires the heatsink and plate to be put back.
ETA: And no, the plate doesn't touch the heatsink. However, a couple of ssd manuf make a heatsink that takes up the plate slot too and can be screwed down like the plate. They are pretty big heatsinks.
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 11:02 am
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:05 am to SaintEB
Ok, so amusingly, now that I've gone back and watched it again, that original installation video has the best look, albeit in CAD format:
LINK
As best as I can tell, that outside wall is solid and the reinstalled plate sits below those open fins.
Damn it, now I want to get my hands on a ps5
LINK
As best as I can tell, that outside wall is solid and the reinstalled plate sits below those open fins.
Damn it, now I want to get my hands on a ps5
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 11:08 am
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:07 am to SaintEB
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ETA: And no, the plate doesn't touch the heatsink. However, a couple of ssd manuf make a heatsink that takes up the plate slot too and can be screwed down like the plate. They are pretty big heatsinks.
I know, like that Sabrent I linked in my first post. Just eyeballing it, it looks like the contact plate is a solid half inch thick. Which would obviously utterly impede any internal airflow, which is another reason I have a hunch that internal airflow for the expansion ssd bay doesn't exist, and that it relies on over the top airflow.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:07 am to Joshjrn
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Can someone confirm this? I'm looking at youtube install videos, and every angle I can see looks like a solid wall:
So you are right, according to this. There is no airflow under the plate.
Nas Compares
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Where possible, you should always use the PS5 M.2 SSD slot with the cover on it. Although this seems a little counter-intuitive (as it prevents airflow over the SSD from the big internal PS5 fan, that is why the heat dissipation qualities of an SSD heatsink are necessary. If you run your PS5 with the cover on the m.2 SSD slot REMOVED, then although this will allow airflow to cool the SSD heatsink on your m.2 drive, it may interrupt/compromise the airflow internally on the PS5 towards the much, MUCH more important CPU, GPU and memory inside that keep the system running.
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 11:11 am
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:11 am to SaintEB
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Where possible, you should always use the PS5 M.2 SSD slot with the cover on it. Although this seems a little counter-intuitive (as it prevents airflow over the SSD from the big internal PS5 fan, that is why the heat dissipation qualities of an SSD heatsink are necessary. If you run your PS5 with the cover on the m.2 SSD slot REMOVED, then although this will allow airflow to cool the SSD heatsink on your m.2 drive, it may interrupt/compromise the airflow internally on the PS5 towards the much, MUCH more important CPU, GPU and memory inside that keep the system running.
Ah, now that I get 100% as it could potentially create a small heat eddy that would impede airflow. Not a real issue near the fan, but on the outside where the pressure is weak, it could cause issues, at least theoretically. That makes me like the add on heatsinks (like the Sabrent) all the more. Though as a middle ground, if you have a heatsink that doesn't contact the OEM plate well, you would just add some super cheap thermal pads to ensure contact. Not ideal, but way better than leaving an air gap.
Anyway, that was fun. Thank you for working through that with me
ETA: Just actually went to your link and that Sabrent heatsink was actually referenced. Nice
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 11:13 am
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:16 am to Joshjrn
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Anyway, that was fun. Thank you for working through that with me
Yeah. Kinda had me nerd out on that for a minute. But I learned I was wrong about something and now I know.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:17 pm to SaintEB
Oh good to know! Thanks for that info!
Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:34 pm to geauxlsu07
Just get an external 5 terabyte SSD. it’s seamless. Games automatically load to it. Its around $120 at Best Buy.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:48 pm to geauxlsu07
They need to go ahead and get the externals working somehow.
Some of these fricking games are way too big. And I always have to move or delete stuff just for the updates even if it says I have enough room, still won’t let you download the update.
But can you play the ps5 games from the external hard drive? That’s the issue.
Some of these fricking games are way too big. And I always have to move or delete stuff just for the updates even if it says I have enough room, still won’t let you download the update.
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Just get an external 5 terabyte SSD. it’s seamless. Games automatically load to it. Its around $120 at Best Buy.
But can you play the ps5 games from the external hard drive? That’s the issue.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:56 pm to ManWithNoNsme
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Just get an external 5 terabyte SSD. it’s seamless. Games automatically load to it. Its around $120 at Best Buy.
An external SSD connecting (I assume) via USB is going to be significantly slower than an NVME drive. Likely won't matter much for loading screens, but could matter quite a bit for things like texture loading.
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