re: For those of you hating on the X1

who cares man...its not their problem...

That was my sarcastic voice FWIW.

me too

I downvoted all of your comments because how confused I was ...

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Xbox all the way for this guy... How else am I supposed to play Halo....?....when it comes out.

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Destiny is developed by Bungie, the creators of Halo. Halo 5 is being developed by 343 Industries.

Destiny is multiplatfom, and if you've seen the videos you already know it will be the Halo killer. Ironically.

BTW I can't wait to see how the three viral MS fanboys here spin this:

Digital Foundry: Hands-on with Xbox One

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E3 press conference featured visibly poor performing software and a bunch of games actually running on PC-based surrogate hardware. We're told that these computers are either "target hardware" or "debug environments" but debate still surrounds the technological make-up of this kit - photos from E3 have emerged showing watercooled CPUs with Nvidia GeForce hardware, a world apart from production Xbox One silicon. We have reports of games crashing to Hewlett Packard branded desktops, stories of crashed game executables being terminated from the Windows Task Manager, and a conference reveal replete with the groan-inducing chicanery of "in-engine" footage and CG trailers.

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In terms of performance, it's pretty rough game to behold. There's tearing all across the screen, even during menus. Mowing multiple enemies down with a vehicle results in circa 15FPS performance as well - so let's assume the target is 30FPS here. Also, reflections on windows and the checkered floors around cafes update at half the usual frame-rate, which makes the presentation look incredibly choppy. At the Microsoft E3 presser, the game was actually running with v-synced engaged, and it's safe to say that performance was dire - we'd hope that this is comprehensively addressed in time for launch.

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1080p at 60FPS is being targeted on Xbox One, and also 64 players in multiplayer - both of which set it apart from previous console versions. When pressed, the Microsoft reps admitted it's running from a debug environment designed to the console's specs. Battlefield 4 targets 1080p60 on the new Microsoft console, but the lack of any kind of Xbox One representation on-site was disappointing to say the least.

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However, these early slices of gameplay are telling of where Microsoft stands in its preparations for that eventual launch day. The biggest shock remains in how few of these games are actually running directly from console hardware right now, with almost every third-party developer openly admitting to a reliance on PC-based debug machines. The accuracy of this approach doesn't precisely pinpoint the end result, though we do see Dead Rising 3 and Crimson Dragon struggling to sustain 30fps under such conditions.

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Good choice!

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BTW I can't wait to see how the three viral MS fanboys here spin this:

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What's to spin? It's a dev kit running a very rough alpha version of the games.

When Dice showed the 17 minutes of BF4 at GDC a few months back they had to use not one but two of the most powerful video cards on the market just to run the alpha version they had because it was unoptimized at that point.

When PS4 showed Watch Dogs during their demo they also had to use a PC because it was an unpolished alpha of the game. It also had bad screen tearing and other issues during that demo.

Issues like this are where polish and cleaning up unnecessary coding comes into effect. That's also why they pay people to test the game over and over. Ask JAE who posts here. He was a tester for EA in Baton Rouge.

I guess it's a good thing they have 6 months to go from alpha to the final product.

they never really had hands on with xbox one did they.

Better exclusives IMO. Crazy I know.

More is a very subjective word when talking about these two consoles and their pros and cons.