re: Court orders Krafton to restore Subnautica founder/CEO. Sub 2 Early Access in May

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To give a combined response to your two posts: do you acknowledge that they/them has been used for centuries as a singular pronoun when gender is unknown?

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I'm sure it has been used by some people in that fashion. I have never used it in that way and have never heard it used in that way. That is not a common use of that term and is not an accepted use of that term.

Additionally, in this case the gender/sex of the individual is known.

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That is not a common use of that term and is not an accepted use of that term.

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It absolutely is. Sorry that you cant remember how things were before 5 years ago. You cant speak the English language properly without neutral singular pronouns.

"If a Staffer Calls in Sick, Here Is How You Should Support Them"

How would you portray that without singular them?

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This doesn't really work in this instance. The gender of the CEO is known,

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The gender of the CEO is not known by someone that is reading the headline as it is written. You write headlines for your audience. They wouldnt know the CEO gender until after they clicked the headline and read the article.

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It absolutely is. Sorry that you cant remember how things were before 5 years ago. You cant speak the English language properly without neutral singular pronouns.

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No it isn't. When you are talking about a specific individual, you do not use the term they/them. Never has this been accepted.

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"If a Staffer Calls in Sick, Here Is How You Should Support Them"

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The term "Staffer," in this sentence represents a group of people. "A Staffer" is a member of that group, but you are still talking about how to respond to someone within that group of people.

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The gender of the CEO is not known by someone that is reading the headline as it is written.

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The gender/sex is known.

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You write headlines for your audience. They wouldnt know the CEO gender until after they clicked the headline and read the article.

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Sure they would, if the headline used the appropriate pronoun.

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So it’s your contention not only that no normal person would respond “aw, how old are they?”, but that you’ve literally never heard someone in your entire life say something similar in an analogous circumstance?

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Yes, that's correct. People usually look at the color of the clothing a child is wearing and use him/her, he/she, etc. Or just say "aww, what a cute baby. You must be so proud!" And guess what? Then the parent leads with "Yeah, we're so happy he/she came into our lives" or something like that. Or people will simply ask "Is it a boy or a girl?" At no point have I ever heard someone say "Is they a boy or a girl?"

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Yes, that's correct. People usually look at the color of the clothing a child is wearing and use him/her, he/she, etc. Or just say "aww, what a cute baby. You must be so proud!" And guess what? Then the parent leads with "Yeah, we're so happy he/she came into our lives" or something like that. Or people will simply ask "Is it a boy or a girl?" At no point have I ever heard someone say "Is they a boy or a girl?"

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I'm genuinely surprised. Throughout my entire life, up to and including now, I've heard countless people use they/them as singular pronouns when they didn't know the gender, or the gender just didn't really matter in that context. I could probably count on one hand the number of times I heard a human being vocalize "is he/she" instead of using "are they", but I'm certainly not going to argue with your life experience if you insist it has been so fundamentally different from mine

Ultimately, I'm sympathetic to the argument that we shouldn't avoid singular gendered pronouns when we know the gender, and especially when gender is relevant, but that's a "more information is better" argument. On the other hand, I'm inclined to give pushback when people claim that using they/them as singular pronouns is some radical, unreasonable departure within the context of the English language, as that's simply not reflective of my nearly four decades of time on this planet

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It would be "*Are they..... "

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Not if you're referring to a singular person.

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And ive heard similar things thousands of times.

"Im gonna introduce you to my friend"
"do they drink?"
"are they single?"
"Are they cool?"

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You keep using examples where the gender of the person you're referring to isn't known. That is not relevant to this article, and also does not mean we should ever pretend using they/them pronouns for individuals who we know and who's gender is known to us is acceptable and okay. It simply isn't.

Also, if I'm asking if someone is single, I already know that person's gender. It has never mattered to me if a guy I'm being introduced to is single.

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The southern 'em is short for them.

"Do you know mike wilson?"
frick em, dont know em, aint heard of em.

Are you trying to tell us you dont interact with people in real life much? Maybe its just a southern thing. Are you from up north?

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This is "him" in my mind. I have never used, and have never heard anyone use, this to refer to a woman. I've heard "your mom and em," but that is referring to multiple people.

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It is a radical, unreasonable departure within the context of the English language to use they/them, as singular pronouns. There is no context where it is reasonable to expect people to accept the usage of plural pronouns for singular individuals.

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In my experience, you find yourself in the extreme minority if that's your position. Not that there's anything wrong with that

you retards just spent two pages debating the specifics of the most descriptive language in the history of mankind


you did this. not the person calling it out

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you retards just spent two pages debating the specifics of the most descriptive language in the history of mankind

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it's pretty entertaining watching his flailing attempts to evade logic. I think we can go another 2 pages

They want everyone to bend the knee to 2% of the population and then wonder why we say frick off. And also to pretend that's just the way things have been since the beginning of time. It's gaslighting and the norm for democrats.