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re: So how high are crawfish prices going to be?

Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:33 am to
Posted by gmrkr5
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:33 am to
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The demand part is what has kept the price so high the last few years. 20 years ago you couldn't hardly get crawfish very far outside Louisiana and now they truck them all over the southeast. Plus they now ship them overnight all over the country. Dallas, Okalahoma City, Atlanta, Birmingham, Tallahasse, etc all have demands for crawfish now.


Well if that is your analogy make sure to tell your farmer friends thanks for fricking the people that have paid their bills for 20 years with high prices because they can ship their crawfish other places now.
This post was edited on 1/6/12 at 11:34 am
Posted by NaturalBeam
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:35 am to
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there's not a farmer I know that's gonna hold anything back unless the price drops below a dollar
You don't know them very well

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The demand part is what has kept the price so high the last few years. 20 years ago you couldn't hardly get crawfish very far outside Louisiana and now they truck them all over the southeast. Plus they now ship them overnight all over the country. Dallas, Okalahoma City, Atlanta, Birmingham, Tallahasse, etc all have demands for crawfish now.
Sure that's part of it - but which do you hear the farmers say more often; that it won't be a good season b/c of supply, or that there is just too much demand?
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:35 am to
analogy?
Posted by gmrkr5
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:39 am to
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analogy?


ok smart arse. does "explanation" work better for you?
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Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:39 am to
look I really don't care if you believe what I'm telling you or not but I'm just trying to explain why the price has gone up over the last 10 years or so

if you don't like the price don't buy them and if enough people feel that way it will go down until they start buying them again
Posted by gmrkr5
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:42 am to
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that it won't be a good season b/c of supply


I think we need a crawfish regulatory committee if it keeps up like this. In a few years they will be $10 a pound. It's the farmers every year crying about "not enough crawfish in my traps waaaaa" but who actually knows what the supply is if we only listen to the farmers. That's like a stock broker being able to set the price of the stocks he wants to sell.
Posted by NaturalBeam
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:42 am to
No big deal. The fact that you know so many crawfish farmers tells me that you'll side with them on this debate, so I don't blame you. I also don't blame them - as I said, this practice is certainly not unique to crawfish farmers.

And I never eat crawfish before late March anyway. Hopefully they'll find their way to the usual price point by then.
Posted by Loubacca
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:42 am to
yellowfin is correct. The amount of crawfish being shipped out of the state is insane. Just like with crabs, they ship them out of state because they can get much higher prices in other areas. The people in LA won't pay the high prices that people in other states will. So while the farmers may have a good crop, the supply may still be low locally because of all the product being exported.
Posted by NaturalBeam
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:44 am to
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I think we need a crawfish regulatory committee if it keeps up like this. In a few years they will be $10 a pound
Well there's definitely a point where the bubble will burst and people simply won't buy. So the market forces are still at work. Unfortunately, they'll keep testing the waters until they reach that point though.
Posted by Croacka
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:44 am to
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That's like a stock broker being able to set the price of the stocks he wants to sell.


uhhhh....he kind of can
Posted by gmrkr5
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:45 am to
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look I really don't care if you believe what I'm telling you or not but I'm just trying to explain why the price has gone up over the last 10 years or so


I believe you and I still think it's fricked up. I dont believe that the crawfish arent there though. I believe the farmers would rather ship em out for higher prices. And so I say "frick you" to them. If what your saying is true, not buying them wont lower the prices. It will just increase what they ship out of state.
Posted by NaturalBeam
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:46 am to
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yellowfin is correct. The amount of crawfish being shipped out of the state is insane. Just like with crabs, they ship them out of state because they can get much higher prices in other areas. The people in LA won't pay the high prices that people in other states will. So while the farmers may have a good crop, the supply may still be low locally because of all the product being exported.
I agree this play a role. But it's odd that this is never a reason given by the farmer, isn't it? It's always about supply when they're asked. Exporting to other states, combined with holding back on the market has proven to be a winning combination for them, no doubt about it.
Posted by gmrkr5
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:49 am to
Last year I had friends in Austin boiling every weekend when we couldn't even get them. Not because they were pricey, because no one had any. So while the farmers cry to us about bad harvests, people in Austin have no problem getting them for a buck a pound cheaper. Explain that.
Posted by Croacka
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:52 am to
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I believe the farmers would rather ship em out for higher prices. And so I say "frick you" to them.


Dude, quit fricking crying


it's america and its a god damn free market


i love crawfish as much as anyone but you are making yourself look like an entitled idiot
Posted by Loubacca
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:52 am to
I know the wholesalers in the area were in cahoots together about how much they were buying and selling for. It was reported on the news but don't know if true.

and I agree, you sound like a whining dickbag. If you don't want to pay for them, don't buy them
This post was edited on 1/6/12 at 11:55 am
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:53 am to
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I believe you and I still think it's fricked up. I dont believe that the crawfish arent there though. I believe the farmers would rather ship em out for higher prices. And so I say "frick you" to them. If what your saying is true, not buying them wont lower the prices. It will just increase what they ship out of state.


The farmer really doesn't know or care where his crawfish go after selling them and gets the same price regardless. The farmer sells to a dock who sells to a distributor who brings them to a restaurant/seafood retailer who sell them to you.
Posted by gmrkr5
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:56 am to
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i love crawfish as much as anyone but you are making yourself look like an entitled idiot


for bitching about insane prices and whiny farmers? it aint that serious dude.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 11:58 am to
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The farmer really doesn't know or care where his crawfish go after selling them and gets the same price regardless. The farmer sells to a dock who sells to a distributor who brings them to a restaurant/seafood retailer who sell them to you.


Now that I dont believe. I think they have some control over where they go. If they are bringing them to a dock that sells to a local distributer then they probably know if they are going to be sold local or not. But hey, I guess I understand, they just wanna make a buck.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 12:00 pm to
Troy from Swamp People is who you are mad at, he's one of the biggest wholesalers in the state and has a lot of say when it comes to price.
Posted by CrocsWithSocks
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Posted on 1/6/12 at 12:15 pm to
And to think that I have (older) relatives who won't touch crawfish because they still regard it as "poor people food." That's how it was when they were growing up (and poor as shite )
This post was edited on 1/6/12 at 12:16 pm
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