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re: Quintessential Southern Foods
Posted on 5/21/13 at 7:09 pm to townhallsavoy
Posted on 5/21/13 at 7:09 pm to townhallsavoy
Pork chops
Mustard greens
Rice and gravy
Fried chicken
Fried catfish
Mac n cheese
Jambalaya
Smothered chicken
Blackened catfish
Corn bread
Mustard greens
Rice and gravy
Fried chicken
Fried catfish
Mac n cheese
Jambalaya
Smothered chicken
Blackened catfish
Corn bread
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 7:37 pm to RebelTiger1848
Fried everything w/ gravy
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:16 pm to LSU Tiger Bob
quote:
Southern Cuisine is not racially segregated.
No, it's not ... pretty much my point exactly. Like Creole food, Southern food as a whole is a beautiful blend of several cuisines of different ethnic groups that come together to tell the history of a geographic region.
And yes, i misspoke ... the Scots introduced it ... it would be more accurate to say that the West African slaves were responsible for the "spread" of its popularity,as the slaves who became cooks incorporated seasonings and spices that were absent in traditional Scottish cuisine, enriching the flavor.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:25 pm to bdevill
quote:
So I guess that would make them Southern, wouldn't it
Yes, but it wouldn't make it "QUINTESSENTIAL" Southern, as you stated earlier, was the topic of the thread.
Those Antoine's dishes also don't meet YOUR CRITERIA of moving from a "subset" of Southern Cuisisne to "quintessential" Southern Cuisine by appearing on everyone's list (like fried chicken) .. because you're the only one who thinks that they are "Southern Cuisine"... much less "quintessential" Southern Cuisine.
Quintessential - (Adjective)Representing the most perfect or typical example of a quality or class.
"When i hear the term Southern Cuisisne, i immediately think of some of them Ersters Rockafella, with some cornbread, greens,fried chicken, and a peach iced tea." ... SAID NO MAN EVER.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:42 pm to unclebuck504
quote:
that the West African slaves were responsible for the "spread" of its popularity,as the slaves who became cooks incorporated seasonings and spices that were absent in traditional Scottish cuisine, enriching the flavor.
Wikipedia is a poor source for information. I wouldn't quote it. Nor should anyone.
The idea that slaves 'spread the word" and are responsible for it's popularity is absurd PC at best.
Ya think the folks (The Scots) in the big house didn't like fried chicken too.
Most folks in the South didn't live in "the big house".. They were subsistence farmers living off the land and what they could grow.. that ate fried chicken as well.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:57 pm to LSU Tiger Bob
LMAO, i just didn't feel like typing all of that, but trust me, i don't do research on Wikipedia.
What's funny is you took the bait ... obviously, you got YOUR info from that Wikipedia article, about the Scottish bringing it to the States.
If you didn't, how did you recognize the quote?
Aint nobody trying to be PC about anything on here. It's a fact. Scottish/British/Irish don't season shite. That's why their cuisine sucks. And yes, the Scots in the big house liked fried chicken ... so did the French and any other groups who owned slaves and had them cooking for them.
I don't deny the Scottish contribution to the dish, but you can't sit here and act like slaves had no contribution either.
What's funny is you took the bait ... obviously, you got YOUR info from that Wikipedia article, about the Scottish bringing it to the States.
If you didn't, how did you recognize the quote?
Aint nobody trying to be PC about anything on here. It's a fact. Scottish/British/Irish don't season shite. That's why their cuisine sucks. And yes, the Scots in the big house liked fried chicken ... so did the French and any other groups who owned slaves and had them cooking for them.
I don't deny the Scottish contribution to the dish, but you can't sit here and act like slaves had no contribution either.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:04 pm to unclebuck504
quote:
What's funny is you took the bait ... obviously, you got YOUR info from that Wikipedia article, about the Scottish bringing it to the States.
bait???
Do you think anybody really thinks that was 'bait'???? Don't make yourself look so stupid. Make your point and move on.
I've had this discussion in the past as this slave/Africa/fried chicken myth is oft repeated. Repeated to the point that some people actually believe it. Factoid??? I've known of the Wiki piece for quite sometime and thought your comments sounded familiar. I did check it, and I was right.
quote:
so did the French and any other groups who owned slaves and had them cooking for them.
So only slave owners ate fried chicken?
Seriously?? Most folks didn't own slaves, but ate the hell out of fried chicken. quote:
I don't deny the Scottish contribution to the dish, but you can't sit here and act like slaves had no contribution either.
I'm not saying they did not. What I am saying, for the last time, is that you can't sit here and spew misinformation about west African slaves "inventing'/bring to the South fried chicken.
That's my point. I've made it, and now I'm moving on.
Cheers!
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:14 pm to LSU Tiger Bob
Whatever, Silly Bob ...
You recognized the quote because that's where YOUR info came from, plain and simple.
And no, i didn't say that ONLY slave owners ate chicken. If you look at my earlier posts, i stated earllier how the South had wealth, but it was all in the hands of a small fraction of the population.
And who he hell are you to say that it's a MYTH that slaves had anything to do with the rise in popularity of fried chicken in the South?
You got some independent research (other than Wikipeida) that you want to cite to back up your claim that it's a myth?
You some kind of food archeologist or something?
You recognized the quote because that's where YOUR info came from, plain and simple.
And no, i didn't say that ONLY slave owners ate chicken. If you look at my earlier posts, i stated earllier how the South had wealth, but it was all in the hands of a small fraction of the population.
And who he hell are you to say that it's a MYTH that slaves had anything to do with the rise in popularity of fried chicken in the South?
You got some independent research (other than Wikipeida) that you want to cite to back up your claim that it's a myth?
You some kind of food archeologist or something?
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:53 pm to CITWTT
Green beans with potatos and ham hocks. Onions and garlic for seasoning.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 5/22/13 at 12:23 am to unclebuck504
quote:
Fried chicken was introduced to Southern States by West African slaves
This is the myth/lie/bull sheet quoted as fact by YOU. I immediately called you out on it. Your response was to quote Wiki. I called you out on that sheet too... after checking to make sure.
And who the hell are you to state this as fact.
You got some independent research (other than Wikipedia) that you want to cite to back up your claim.
Like I said, this is not my first rodeo on the subject, and no I don't have any links (at present) to provide you ~~ only my notes and memories from previous discussions, readings and research.
quote:
You some kind of food archeologist or something?
Food history is a hobby, as well as debunking bull sheet myths, lies, half truths, and factoids.
It's been fun, but I really do have to go now.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 12:58 am to LSU Tiger Bob
Yeah, go watch Fox News and get yourself some more of that "education." Research my arse.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 5:34 am to townhallsavoy
Turtle sauce piquant
Fried frog legs
All wild game with rice n gravy
Fried frog legs
All wild game with rice n gravy
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