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re: Made some gumbo this morning, took some pics of the process.

Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:23 am to
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:23 am to
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I've never strained the frying oil either. The sediment adds to the flavor.


this has been a big question of mine. you just take the oil you fried the chicken in and use that for the roux or do you strain out the debris first?

i have been straining out the debris now i'm wondering if that would have hurt the roux at all?
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:25 am to
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Whisk your oil and flour together in a cast iron skillet or pot or Le Creuset pot even. Put your oven anywhere from 350-375 and put the pot in the oven. When it starts to bubble and turn a little brown, give it a stir. You don't have to stir all that often until it's starts to brown well. The stirring is not for the prevention of burning it, but more to get an even browning. Cook it until you get the desired color. It's nearly impossible to burn it. It takes longer than the stovetop method, but you are free to do other things while its cooking like chopping etc... Very easy and you can get it right on the money as far as the color you desire. Don't be afraid to go dark.



i've yet to have a bad roux come out of the microwave..except at my mom's house when i used a glass bowl that wasn't pyrex

i'm sure everyone remembers that pic.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:26 am to
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i'm sure everyone remembers that pic.


Why yes, yes we do.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:29 am to
oh good you're here!

so you still opt for oven roux over microwave? i guess microwave roux does take more attention because you have to keep stirring it every couple of minutes until it starts to darken.

also..i find i just don't like the consistency of my roux using vegetable oil. it seems more 'runny' to me at the end than when i use bacon grease or lard. that seems to puff up like a mousse towards the end and it has some 'body' to it when i ladle it into the stock. the veggie oil roux..always seems runny.

is that just me or is there really that much of a difference in the type of oil you use?

eta also, my wife is making me crazy..she keeps insisting on helping and putting the trinity into the stock. i told her it HAS to go in the boiling lava roux first but we're at an impasse here because she loves to help with the gumbo but this is driving me up the wall.
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 11:32 am
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:31 am to
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except at my mom's house when i used a glass bowl that wasn't pyrex

i'm sure everyone remembers that pic.


I forgot about that
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:36 am to
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also..i find i just don't like the consistency of my roux using vegetable oil. it seems more 'runny' to me at the end than when i use bacon grease or lard. that seems to puff up like a mousse towards the end and it has some 'body' to it when i ladle it into the stock. the veggie oil roux..always seems runny.

is that just me or is there really that much of a difference in the type of oil you use?


Mine usually is like a paste at the end. Usually doesn't matter once I add the Trinity because it just coats the veggies pretty well
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:37 am to
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Mine usually is like a paste at the end. Usually doesn't matter once I add the Trinity because it just coats the veggies pretty well


what type of oil do you typically use?
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:38 am to
Sorry, I meant with veggie oil. I do 1 cup oil to 1.5 of flour though.
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 11:39 am
Posted by I B Freeman
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:42 am to
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Next time, when you make your roux, heat the oil to almost smoking and add flour all at once. Commence stirring immediately and don't leave unattended for one second (have your trinity already chopped before you start the roux).



What I do too.

I like my roux as dark as I can get it---almost black so long as it is not burned. Better flavor and color IMHO.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:44 am to
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Sorry, I meant with veggie oil. I do 1 cup oil to 1.5 of flour though.


i'm going to try this ratio out next time i am stuck using veg oil.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:49 am to
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so you still opt for oven roux over microwave?


I've never made it in the microwave. I usually make too much roux at one time for that to work for me, I think, and I don't want to have to stop and stir that often. I'm sure it's fine. I know plenty of folks who make it that way, though I don't know that I've eaten their gumbo.

I did make a small roux about 2 cups flour to 1/5 c oil for a crawfish gumbo over the weekend. I did it in the oven, though, on 375 while I chopped the veggies. I was also cooking something else at the same time. I didn't stir it much at all until the end.

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is that just me or is there really that much of a difference in the type of oil you use?



I've only used peanut oil or vegetable oil for roux for gumbo. I don't know if there is a texture difference, but my roux has never been runny. Could be the ratio of flour to oil. I think different fats yield different flavors.

Tell the wife she can help by stirring the trinity in the roux while while it sautes. I don't get why she would keep adding it to the stock when you've told her not to if she's really trying to just help?
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 12:04 pm to
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Tell the wife she can help by stirring the trinity in the roux while while it sautes. I don't get why she would keep adding it to the stock when you've told her not to if she's really trying to just help?


because she is a firm believer of eating all vegetables as close to raw as possible. she feels like the roux cooks them down too much.

i have to admit i do enjoy her green beans which are very crunchy over the kind that is cooked until they're mush.

i keep telling her she's not eating gumbo for the health benefits in celery!
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 12:10 pm to
Garnish her bowl with fresh cut trinity.

I can't stand crunchy green beans!
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted by doubletap
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 12:14 pm to
Is there an ideal roux to stock ratio?

Say I make a roux with 1c oil/1c flour. How much stock should I add. I usually just eyeball it but I'm always worried I added too much stock.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 12:27 pm to
I do a half gallon of stock for mine. 7/1 to 8/1 liquid to oil ratio.
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 12:33 pm to
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Is there an ideal roux to stock ratio?


What's ideal is more of your own preference for the texture of your gumbo. Some folks like thick and some folks like it thinner but with body and some like it thin.

Paul Prudhomme's recipe is a good place to start. He uses 7-10 cups liquid to 1/2 c flour/1/2 c oil.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 12:56 pm to
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Garnish her bowl with fresh cut trinity



ima do it!

(pray for me)
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 12:58 pm to
lately the SO has been dumping a whole chicken in a pot and making a homemade stock so we've stopped measuring for the most part and just using what's left in the pot by the time she's done tearing up the bird.

i've had oil on top of my gumbo the last 2-3x and somehow this last batch had ZERO oil and i loved it! i hope we can keep that streak going.
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 12:59 pm
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 12:58 pm to
Post results.

Or have one of your heirs do it.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 1:00 pm to


definitely going to start making more/thicker roux as well. i think it needs a bit more than i've been putting in it..i like my gumbo thicker.
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