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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II

Posted on 4/3/17 at 5:25 pm to
Posted by I_heart_beer
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 5:25 pm to
I used my Anova to kettle sour the 2 batches I've done and it worked great.
Posted by Canuck Tiger
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 7:02 pm to


Wyeast 5335 did work once again
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:41 am to
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Wyeast 5335 did work once again


Yeah, the beer i cracked, the last ph reading was 3.28. It got down to 3.17, but i believe the french oak raised the acidity slightly.
Posted by Canuck Tiger
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:16 am to
I would expect the finished beer to be a bit higher than this. It tastes fantastic though chocolate and a bit of caramel and no roastiness or acridness. Was exactly what I was looking for at this stage. I'm going to rack it to a carboy with some Cabernet-soaked oak cubes and then in a month or so then it gets raspberries.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:21 am to
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I'm going to rack it to a carboy with some Cabernet-soaked oak cubes and then in a month or so then it gets raspberries.


Nice. I used french oak spirals. They were a bit pricey, but i'll always have them for multiple reuses. For 5 gallons, i used 1 spiral for 3 weeks. Next time i may up that to 5 weeks. I got some oak notes, but once bottled, i didn't notice it. However, that is probably the one thing i didn't try to pick up when i tasted it. Next bottle i open i'll make a note to try and pick up the oak.

I'm also being informed on Milk the Funk, that i could still go through a ropey sick phase in my beer. Only pedio in the beer would have come from the dregs, so we'll see.
Posted by sandraccoon
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:33 am to


Got me some hop juice fermenting right meow! Can't wait to sip on it
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:01 am to
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sandraccoon


What's with all the duct tape?
Posted by sandraccoon
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:07 am to
i double wrapped my temperature probe with towels and then taped it to the side of the carboy to get the best temp readings for my fermentation controller. It'll do for now until I can put together something a little fancier
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:19 pm to
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i double wrapped my temperature probe with towels and then taped it to the side of the carboy to get the best temp readings for my fermentation controller. It'll do for now until I can put together something a little fancier




I just tape a paper towel to the side of the carboy and put the probe between the carboy and paper towel.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:39 pm to
Kegged up Purple Drank just now. 3 lbs blueberries, 2 lbs blackberries puréed.





This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 7:40 pm
Posted by I_heart_beer
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:59 pm to
Wow, looks like Kool-aid.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:15 pm to
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Wow, looks like Kool-aid.


First tastes are pretty good. Very tart but appropriate with the berries. I'll give you a couple bottles.
Posted by sandraccoon
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:19 am to
That looks good as hell! I need to put an order in for a bottle as well
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:20 am to
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That looks good as hell! I need to put an order in for a bottle as well




If you're in BR...
Posted by sandraccoon
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 9:20 am to
Live in Denham but always in BR. I could bring a bottle of my latest IPA in two weekends. Of course if it is worth a damn lol
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:38 am to
That's fine. I could drop some off for you at La Homebrew.
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:54 am to
i want to do a long ages sour now but i have no clue what else sours entail. i guess ill need to get a fermentation spot for it which is temp controlled cause i only have room for one. and i dont want to take that up for my normal brews.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 11:00 am to
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i want to do a long ages sour now but i have no clue what else sours entail. i guess ill need to get a fermentation spot for it which is temp controlled cause i only have room for one. and i dont want to take that up for my normal brews.




I'm here to help. As far as ferm control, you have a closet that stays around 70/72? I keep mine in the laundry room closet. Stays in that range. Remember, you're working with saison temps, so that's a range of anywhere from 66-78.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 11:23 am to
Some tips.

1) For your first one, as i said, just keep it in a room temp closet. 70-74 degrees will work.
2) Be prepared to wait. I let mine age for a year. Probably didn't need to go that long, but i'm patient.
3) Fill your carboy up. I'd design my recipe for 6-6.5 gallons (depending on carboy size). The idea is you want little headspace for O2 to get in.
4) Keep that airlock filled. It will evaporate so just check the airlock every week or so.
4.1) Also, use the bubbler airlocks, as opposed to 3-piece. I find they are much easier to maintain your liquid in the airlock.
5) Co-pitch your bugs together. This is completely optional, but if you don't know what you are doing off the bat, just co-pitch everything. Your sach strain, brett strain, and Lactic acid bacteria (lacto, pedio). I did this with my first and it came out great. My second one that is currently doing its thing, i did not do this as i learned more about the process.
6) Once everything is pitched, your bung is in the carboy tight, and your airlock is positioned. Leave it alone and forget about it. I waited 3 months before testing it the first time and would only open the bung to test every 3 months after. I would also flush with co2 towards then end after each sample.
7) Pellicles aren't consistent. I didn't see my first sign of a pellicle until about 4 months in. Coincidentally, that is also when the first bit of o2 ingressed the carboy. A pellicle is a sort of natural defense that Brett creates to protect the wort from unwanted creatures, O2, etc... Pellicles are both good and bad. Having a pellicle shows that your brett is there and doing its job. However, it also shows that you let O2 in at some point. Too much O2 can produce acetic acid which is not good.
8) Buy yourself a ph meter. If you like sours, find one from the store and if it's the acidity amount you like, then measure with the ph meter (after you calibrate). That'll give you an idea of what you like. Ph isn't the most accurate acidity measure, but it will get you there. Also, for every tenth of a point in ph, that equates to 10 times the acidity. So if your ph goes from 3.3 to 3.2, your beer is 10 times more acidic. Now how you perceive that acidity is up to the individual.
9) Don't add hops...Hops are not necessary. My first i only had 3 IBU's worth of Saaz i believe. Hops will restrain or flat out prevent (in case of pedio) souring of your beer. My latest sour batches are no hops at all. Hops, even a couple IBU's could cause your beer to go from souring in 4 weeks, to souring in 10 months. Now there are some more hop tolerant LABs out there (lactic acid bacteria), but to be safe, just hold off on the hops.
10) Join the milk the funk facebook group, and check out the milk the funk wiki. Also, pick up the book "American Sour Beers". All excellent sources for everything sour/funky.

There are some other things i'm sure i'll think of.
This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 11:26 am
Posted by I_heart_beer
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 11:37 am to
Can't wait to try that one. I know I'm a few years late, but I've recently been trying more an more sours and enjoying them. I tried a few a couple of years ago and didn't care for them. Maybe I've killed all my taste buds with hops so I enjoy the sours now
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