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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II

Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:51 am to
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:51 am to
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how many you planting?


3 cascade, 3 centennial, 3 chinook

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if all 3 of my cashmere sprout, you wanna trade?


Sure. I want to get these guys going. I haven't planted them yet. They are still in the fridge. What are you adding to your soil to plant them to help them grow? And how often are you watering them?
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 10:06 am
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:20 pm to
i just used a bag of potting soil/peat/manure mix i got from costco. im watering enough to keep it damp. if they are in the sun, thats multi times a day but i put them in the shad and im watering when i leave for work and when i get back.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:26 pm to
I’m thinking about getting a timer and setting up a drip system. Was going to plant them today but kinda worried about the storm tomorrow over-Watering them
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:10 pm to
i have them in pots and should provide plenty of drainage. i will transplant once i get a decent sprout.

The flowerbed i have them in has sprinkler heads. i was going to swap those to drip hoses.

I just planted other stuff in my garden this weekend. I hope it drains ok. It should.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 1:14 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 4:19 pm to
So I kegged my west coast haze IPA a few minutes ago. My FG measured at 1.011 but the tilt showed 1.006. I noticed a layer about 1/4” thick of hop debris on top of the tilt, so that may be the cause for the discrepancy.

I tasted the beer. This is the best IPA I’ve ever made, so far. Tons of hop aroma. Some dankness and citrus. Hope it holds until serving.
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:31 pm to
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CarRamrod



Thanks for the rec on the mini regulator. I bought one, and used it for the St. Pattys Day Parade to serve a cream ale I had dyed green. It worked to perfection! Excited for tailgates with this now.
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:32 pm to
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I tasted the beer. This is the best IPA I’ve ever made, so far. Tons of hop aroma. Some dankness and citrus. Hope it holds until serving.


Thats awesome! Mosaic, Simcoe, and Citra?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:14 pm to
Strata, lupo citra, lupo mosaic, and cryo simcoe. I didn’t have as much mosaic as the recipe called for so I made up the difference with citra and the simcoe.
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 6:43 am to
Oh hell I guess I have been out of the loop too long.... What's lupo and cryo?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 8:02 am to
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Oh hell I guess I have been out of the loop too long.... What's lupo and cryo?



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LUPOMAX Concentrated Hop Pellets
LUPOMAX® is a new concentrated pellet that is consistent, efficient, and optimized for hop flavor. LUPOMAX® has less vegetative matter compared to regular hop pellets so you get hop flavors that are bigger, bolder, and brighter! Less vegetative matter means less beer loss, less solid waste, and more beer to enjoy. LUPOMAX® is variety and crop year specific and made with premium lots that are selected to deliver consistent true-to-type flavor year over year.

LUPOMAX® = Consistent lupulin concentration for optimized hop flavor.
· Consistent lupulin concentration for optimized hop flavor
· Sensory Plus™: process delivers consistency and true-to-type hop flavor
· Lupulin standardization for reliable brewing performance
· Reduces beer loss = more beer


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Cryo Hops® are some of the most innovative, in-demand hops available. Each varietal goes through a cryogenic process: at an extremely low temperature, whole-leaf hops are separated into concentrated lupulin and bract to preserve the essential oils and resins. The result? An enticing LupuLN2® hop pellet that doubles hop potency by 40-50% from traditional pellets. Experience enhanced hop flavor with juicy, resinous and fruity characteristics. Perfect for IPAs.


Essentially, you get more hop aroma/flavor per ounce. You basically use about 70% of the quantity as you'd normally use. However, as i'm reading another article, it states to use 40-50%. I think Lupo and Cryo are the same, just different producers. Lupo = Yakima Valley Hops, Cryo = Yakima Chief Hops

LINK
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 8:32 am to
FWIW, here is my recipe.

60 minute boil
OG - 1.060
FG - 1.011
IBU - 51
Single Infusion - 149 @ 1 hour

Grain
86% 2 Row
13% Flaked Oats
1.5% Crystal 15

Hops
.64 oz Lupo Citra - 30 min
2 oz. Lupo citra - Whirlpool, 20 min @ 180
.81 oz. Lupo Mosaic - Whirlpool, 20 min @ 180
2 oz. Cryo Simcoe - dry hop 3 days into primary when gravity was around 1.028 (according to tilt)
2.5 oz. Strata - dry hop for 4 days
1.4 oz. Lupo Citra - Dry hop for 4 days

Yeast
WLP001 - Cal Ale

Brewed on 3/12, kegged on 3/22. 10 days to fully ferment.

I was very surprised at the fermentation activity with this yeast. I haven't used cal ale in a long time. Fermentation took off pretty quickly and chugged along for 2 days. Day 3, it hit another gear and i had a blowoff to clean up. On day 6 or 7, it appeared to reach final gravity, and that's when i did the final dry hop addition.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55613 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 9:36 am to
Next beer up, Italian Pils. Probably brew this saturday.

I've been brewing pilsners lately using kveik or kveik/lager yeast blends. But my latest one didn't turn out like i hoped.

So i'm making this next one with 34/70 saflager yeast, and doing the brulosophy quick lager method.

I've been watching The apartment brewer on youtube and he's been doing a pilsner series, makes me want to do the same. He's done Czech, German, Italian, and New Zealand pils.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 9:41 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:27 am to
Any sprouts yet?


how do you harvest the rhizomes after you cut the vine?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 2:31 pm to
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Any sprouts yet?


I just planted them yesterday evening.

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how do you harvest the rhizomes after you cut the vine?


are you talking about splitting the rhizome or transplanting them?
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 2:32 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:37 am to
just trying to figure out what to do once these grow. I havent ready anything more than out them in the dirt. So the vine grows and at some point you cut the whole vine and harvest the hops right? the root stays in the ground, will it grow back next year assuming it doesnt die? do you need to dig it up?
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:49 am to
I just pick the hops off the bines....they are called bines rather than vines. After picking your hops, the bine leafs will continue to absorb energy to feed the roots. When they first sprout, let them grow to about 12" length and choose the best two bines and cut the others to the ground. I usually get 20 or 30 bine shoots from a plant but you only want to keep 2.

Mine just started sprouting.


This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 10:51 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:51 am to
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So the vine grows and at some point you cut the whole vine and harvest the hops right?


Yeah, per the book, it's usually around august/september when you harvest. Any early hops that become ripe, you can hand pick on the bine. What most do, is once a full harvest is ready, you remove the twine and lay it down to more easily pick the hops. You can remove the hops from the bine in place, but if you can lay down your bines, then it's easier.

I bought about 500' of coconut fiber twine and each rhizome will have about 20'. You train the bines up the twine in a clockwise motion, once they get about 1' in length. You should see them start to search for something to grab hold of.

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the root stays in the ground, will it grow back next year assuming it doesnt die?


I believe you cut it down to about 6" to 1' above the ground, and eventually the bine will suck back into the root. Then cover with more mulch to prevent any freeze damage. Being in Louisiana, we shouldn't have too much to worry about.

Edit: also, they recommend cutting off the bull shoots.

From Yakima

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The first bines that shoot up are commonly referred to
as “Bull Bines” because they are big, vigorous growers, but they tend to have lower fruit yields. That is why
the bull bines are typically cut back after a while to
incentivize second growth. The second growth bines
are the ones that are trained up and allowed to fruit. So
the timing might work well to allow the bull bines to get
going inside, but when it is transferred to the ground
they can be cut back. If you do plan on starting them
inside, they will require a grow light or at least 6 hours of direct natural sunlight to make sure that they have enough energy to properly grow
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 11:07 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55613 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:09 am to
More

LINK

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Pick the healthiest shoots (about three per twine, cutting back all others) and wrap each bine clockwise
around the twine. Mature bines can be quite prickly and they will notoriously cut exposed skin, so be careful
when handling. Additional training might be required over the next couple days, but before long the bines will
understand and keep climbing up on their own. Hops are mechanical climbers, so their heads will follow the
sun, which is why they climb clockwise. It is also important to note that if a bine’s head is damaged or broken
off, that entire bine will die. So be careful when training and maintaining.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
41014 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:12 am to
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It is also important to note that if a bine’s head is damaged or broken off, that entire bine will die.


Yes, they are very delicate so handle gently.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58003 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:54 am to
cool deal. this is great! cant wait to brew a beer with my own hops.... next grains right?!?!




yea frick all that.
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