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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II

Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:55 am to
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:55 am to
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On your pictures of trellis inspiration, don't plant them as close as shown in that first picture. You're just asking for a mildew problem, especially in LA where it rains every day during peak growing season.


Yeah i'm thinking more of the 2nd picture. I have 9 rhizomes being shipped total, so i figured 1' between each rhizome, and 2'-3' between varietals. So a minimum 14' planter bed, where the rhizomes are aligned.

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You're going to want AM sun and not PM sun, if it can be avoided. The LA heat is brutal on hops and you want all the help you can get keeping them coolish in the afternoon.


Well, i'm kind of limited in my growing area, unless my wife will let me plant them along the side of the house, which i'm pretty sure is a no go. Eventually the area will have some evening shade when i plant a tree in that area in the future, but the area i'm planning gets about 8 hours of sun/day (1030-630).
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 7:51 am to
Not sure if you guys saw this on social media, but there is a Master Homebrewer Program available. From what i gather, it's more to encourage homebrewers to enter competitions and brew more. Don't think it costs anything.

Master Homebrewer Program

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The Master Homebrewer Program is a nonprofit organization established to promote the mastery of amateur brewing. The objectives of the program are as follows.

1. To recognize brewers for their excellence in the production of high-quality beer, mead and cider.

2. To promote the hobby of homebrewing by incentivizing brewers to stretch their breadth of knowledge across all styles.

3. To act symbiotically with the BJCP, encouraging participation in competition.

4. Establish a quick and easy means of identifying experts in the field of brewing.

The Master Homebrewer program is eligible to any resident of the USA aged 21 and older.

The Master Homebrewer Program is aligned with the scoring system of the 2015 version of the Beer Judge Certification Program. Members of the program will be eligible to receive rankings and awards based upon scoresheets from a recognized (or higher ranked) beer judge from an AHA or BJCP sanctioned homebrewing competition.

Once you have received your scoresheet, you will need to send to the program administrator via a scanned PDF scoresheet, photographed scoresheet, or a screenshot from a competition website showing your assigned scoresheet score along with the judge ranking who assigned the score.

Our team will take these scores and enter them into the database and advise of any advancement achieved.


The guy who runs it has a youtube channel called MeanBrews. It's essentially a style breakdown, similar to Designing Great Beer book, but based on his award winning recipes.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:06 am to
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MeanBrews


I totally nerd out on his videos. My wife walks through the room when I'm watching them and she just rolls her eyes.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:48 am to
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My wife walks through the room when I'm watching them and she just rolls her eyes.


You're married to my wife too?
This post was edited on 3/17/22 at 9:49 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 10:45 am to
my rhizomes come in today..... This is my first time growing hops.... how do i do it?


Do you get them to sprout in a bucket or something? then transplant?
This post was edited on 3/17/22 at 10:46 am
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:13 pm to
Stick it in dirt where you want it to go. Watch it grow. They grow like weeds and are very hardy.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:30 pm to
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Do you get them to sprout in a bucket or something? then transplant?


Homebrewer's Association

Craft Beer and Brewing

Yakima Valley

I could repeat what i've read, but they probably explain it better. You can grow in pots or planters. Some grow them in 5 gallon buckets.
This post was edited on 3/17/22 at 12:34 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 3:15 pm to
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Some grow them in 5 gallon buckets.


I'd say that's the minimum size container you need, if you're going the container route. The rhizome will grow into a massive ball of roots.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 3:44 pm to
so how do you harvest the rhizome after the growing season?
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 7:09 pm to
So it says to plant all three together? Do I have to? Or can I split them for multiple vines?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 7:23 pm to
Plant them together. Yakima sent me this video about planting.

LINK
This post was edited on 3/17/22 at 7:24 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 7:38 pm to
I just watched one video a guy was planting single rhizomes. I'm guessing planting 3 together will ensure at least one will grow.

I don't have room for 6 plants so I think I'm going to plant 2 together and a single in a pot. And if those grow I'll give them to a buddy
This post was edited on 3/17/22 at 7:39 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 8:23 pm to
I initially thought I was to plant a single rhizome so I was prepping for 9 bines. So now I need to consider ordering more rhizomes. I have cascade, centennial, and chinook. I may get more cascade or maybe another varietal.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:48 pm to
You can plant them individually. That's what I've always done. I could see planting a few together if you're trying to maximize your first year harvest. If you have the time to give it one season to establish, then you're good to go with just one per hole.

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so how do you harvest the rhizome after the growing season?


The rhizomes only need to really be dug up and split every 3-5 years. I just did mine last year after four years.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:49 pm to
Well like I said, I think yakuma tells you to plant all 3 together to be sure one sprouts. All of mine has buds starting so I'm not worried.

I got a Chinook and Cashmere
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:56 pm to
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 think yakuma tells you to plant all 3 together 


Naw, you dont need to do that.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 10:16 pm to
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Well like I said, I think yakuma tells you to plant all 3 together to be sure one sprouts. All of mine has buds starting so I'm not worried


Out of the 9 I have, maybe 6 are sprouted already.

I’m watching videos and everything I’m seeing and reading says to plant them flat, laying down, yet that Yakima video the guy is planting them standing up.

I’m doing what I always do and am researching way too much into this. I’m sure it’s much simpler than I think it is.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58003 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:41 am to
All the big farmers i have wathched on youtube plant them all different. Flat, horizontal, at a angle. so really... seems it doesnt matter. So i ended up splitting all of mine. growing 2 in one pot, and a single in another. When they sprout and start growing ill trans plant them to their final location. and give a buddy all the ones i dont have room for.
This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 11:10 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55613 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:36 am to
Built my planter box this weekend. Next comes the mini-pergola over the top. The plan is to train them to the pergola, then run the twine to the back fence.



This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 9:37 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58003 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:46 am to
how many you planting? if all 3 of my cashmere sprout, you wanna trade?

if everything sprouts ill have 3 cashmere and 3 chinook.
one of my chinooks is already sprouting.

This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 9:48 am
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