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Posted on 1/17/16 at 9:19 pm to
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 9:19 pm to
Hello F&D board

I am new to homebrewing and just started my first batch last weekend. For a number of reasons I determined that, initially, 1 gallon batches would suit me best. I also went straight into all grain - after endless hours of reading I knew that all grain was for me.

First batch from a week ago was an American amber and the batch I started yesterday was an American IPA.

Was reading about brewing some belgian tripels and was thinking about starting that in a few months after I nail down the IPA recipe I like. Looks like the fermentationi temp is a bit higher though and was wondering how important this is for tripels? That won't be an option until the summer for me so if needed I'll just wait.
Posted by I_heart_beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 10:14 pm to
I'll definitely post an update when I get a brew done. I really love that everything happens in 1 pot. That means only one pot to clean :)
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 6:40 am to
quote:

Looks like the fermentationi temp is a bit higher though and was wondering how important this is for tripels? That won't be an option until the summer for me so if needed I'll just wait.


Not specifically for tripels, but i find fermentation temp control to be very important to make quality beer. If you are only making 1 gallon batches, then a simple dorm fridge ought to do the trick (for typical ale temps 65-70). Get a dorm fridge and get yourself a temperature controller. If you're not interested in spending money, google "Swamp Cooler". That's how i started controlling my ferm temps in the summer, especially. For my swamp cooler i used an igloo 40 qt cube ice chest (for 5 gallon carboys). I used a drimmel tool to cut a hole in the lid to fit the neck of the carboy. Simply fill the ice chest up with water (partially) then place your fermenter in the ice chest. I kept a floating thermometer in the ice chest. Once the water reaches equilibrium temps, add frozen water bottles every so often to maintain the temperature. This worked fine until i bought myself a chest freezer and a temp controller. Again, since you are doing 1 gallon batches, you wouldn't need a large ice chest at all, and could probably use any ice chest you have laying around without having to drill into the top.

Now if your problem is you need to keep the temps elevated for saisons, belgians, etc... then i'd invest in a fermwrap. I have one that i use when i brew my saisons in the winter. Keep it plugged into the temp controller and it does the work for you.

I have the Johnson Temperature Controller

LINK

Good price on them right now. $68.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 6:43 am to
and a little update. Checked on my last night porter. 3-4 hours after pitching yeast and it's already starting. Getting some very pretty krausen lately. Maybe it's the fermcaps or just a very healthy yeast. Made a 1.5 liter starter on friday and pitched sunday.

This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 6:47 am
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:20 am to
Wow I had no idea these existed. Would have never guessed you could override a fridge like that. Thank you!

My problem will almost never be keeping things cool. Live in upstate NY and we just don't like to run our heat as much as some so usually the house is around 60-64 all winter.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:28 am to
You would be surprised at how well a sleeping bag or blanket around a carboy works. Ambient winter temp would be great for most beers then as fermentation starts going on the tripel you could wrap the carboy and let fermentation start to slowly warm the beer.

The tripel I made recently I pushed the temp up into the 80s after like 3 days for fermentation
Posted by I_heart_beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2015
301 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:41 am to
If you're not scared of a little DIY these have worked great for me and are cheap. I have one on my fermentation fridge and one on my kegerator.

Inkbird

You could wire up one of those and place your carboy in a closet with a small electric space heater and you should be able to get the temp where you want it.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:23 am to
I may try wrapping and have a spare down jacket that should really do the trick. I guess to check the temp just pull my airlock out and stick the thermometer probe down into my fermenter right? I had forgotten about the fact that the process itself will create some heat.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 10:31 am
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:49 am to
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I guess to check the temp just pull my airlock out and stick the thermometer probe down into my fermenter right?


You don't want to do this, especially with an IPA. The introduction of oxygen and possibility of bacteria contamination isnt worth it.

Use an aquarium thermometer on the side of the carboy. You can pick one up at the local pet supply store.

This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 10:51 am
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:55 am to
Does this just stick to the outside? My primary fermenter is a 2 gallon, food grade plastic bucket - think it will give accurate reading that way?

Also - i have read about the dangerous of contamination but do not recall dangers of introducing oxygen. Can you elaborate?
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 11:00 am
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:27 am to
quote:

think it will give accurate reading that way?


yep, the beer will keep the bucket at approximately the same temperature. Especially at those lower volumes.


quote:

Can you elaborate?


I wouldn't say there are any 'dangers' associated with oxygen from opening and closing the bucket, but minor introduction of oxygen during fermentation/packaging can reduce the perception and longevity of hops.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 11:35 am
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 1:09 pm to
The more I read about that thing, the more I'm liking it. I'm going home this evening and watching a brew session with it. Seems to get favorable reviews from all the guys that have it. The price isn't too bad either. It cost as much as a control panel for a 3-pot system.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 1:22 pm to
Cool setup.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55449 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

I may try wrapping and have a spare down jacket that should really do the trick. I guess to check the temp just pull my airlock out and stick the thermometer probe down into my fermenter right? I had forgotten about the fact that the process itself will create some heat.


Yeah, don't do that. Buy the stick on thermometers for your carboys. They are like $4 i think.

LINK
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Brew-Boss kettle with their COFI filter, along with the controller.


damn, I missed this... Nice setup!
Posted by I_heart_beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2015
301 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

The more I read about that thing, the more I'm liking it. I'm going home this evening and watching a brew session with it. Seems to get favorable reviews from all the guys that have it. The price isn't too bad either. It cost as much as a control panel for a 3-pot system.


The owner/creator that does the videos on the website can be hard to listen to, but he does go thru the whole brew process (the whole video may be on YouTube).
I really like the simplicity of the whole thing.

quote:

damn, I missed this... Nice setup!


Thanks, I can't wait to try it out
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 2:58 pm to
If you don't mind me asking, any particular reason you are going away from the 3-vessel electric setup?

A setup like that is an end goal for a lot homebrewers.
Posted by I_heart_beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2015
301 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 3:16 pm to
I just like how simple this setup is. Everything happens in one pot, which means one pot to clean. Also, most people are saying they can knock out a brew day in 3 hours, as opposed to the 5-6 hours it takes on the 3 vessel system
I just swapped jobs recently and went from shift work to straight days, which means no more mid week brew days with no wife/kids around so being able to get a brew done before 10 on a Saturday is a good thing.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

which means no more mid week brew days with no wife/kids around so being able to get a brew done before 10 on a Saturday is a good thing.


Completely understand, I've looked into building to a 1 vessel electric BIAB type setup for the same reasons.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55449 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:32 pm to
So checked my Carboy when I got home and I had a bit of a blowoff, even with fermcaps. I don't know what it is about my dark beers, but everyone has resulted in a mess to clean up (though this blowoff was minor comparatively). I guess my yeast starter that was on a stir plate for 2 days was very healthy.

At least I didn't have 1/2 gallon on the bottom of my freezer to clean up.

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