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Posted on 9/18/15 at 11:43 pm
Posted by bnglcat
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
258 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 11:43 pm
Looking to brew something for my firstborn for me to enjoy every year on his birthday up until his 21st where we will both enjoy it and would like some input if anyone can help. I plan to brew this beer on his first birthday in march. I have a test batch carbonating in the bottle, but am looking for any input. It will be a high abv beer to survive the next 20 years but I look forward to tasting it every year commemorating the birth and brew day.

The target is a 15+% abv english barleywine type of beer. This is a targeted 5-5.5 gallon batch. Basically enough to get 22, 22 oz bottles. One for each year plus 2 for the 20th year.

Here's the recipe I have so far, but am very unsure of the hops. I know I want the london esb to start...leaning the high gravity for the finish, but there was another that was recommended to me at LAHB that I can't remember right now to help me get 15+ abv. I've also tossed around the idea of adding some sort of smoked malt as well. Not sure. I just know that I want to go with some sort of english barleywine as I am a big fan of the dark fruit notes of those styles like the clown shoes billionaire EBW.

Anyhow, TL;DR;, any suggestions on what could make this recipe work/better? Beersmith has this around 1.147 SG with a 67% efficiency and an estimated 16.9% abv with 107.4 ibus. Thus far, I've been around 77-82% efficiency in the 4 all grain brews I've done, but nothing has been anywhere near the grain bill of this brew so I am expecting slightly less efficiency. If I get close, I will probably decrease the turbinado addition to try and hit no more than a 1.150 OG.

2 hour boil. 150 mash.
23 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter
8.0 oz Caramel Malt - 40L
8.0 oz Special B Malt
1 lbs Candi Syrup, D-90
6.00 oz East Kent Goldings
2 lbs Turbinado [Boil for 60 min]
3.00 oz East Kent Goldings
4.00 oz East Kent Goldings
1.0 pkg London ESB Ale (Wyeast Labs #1968)
1.0 pkg Super High Gravity Ale (White Labs #WLP099) Yeast (Pitch 3-4 days after pitching 1968)
1 lbs Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (Add on day 2)
1 lbs Bernards Honey (Add on day 3 or 4 when pitching second yeast plus some yeast energizer)
4.00 oz East Kent Goldings (EKG) Dry Hop 5 days before bottling
Posted by James Russell
Member since Dec 2014
393 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 11:58 pm to
…but aren't you going to triple dry hop with galaxy and citra?
Posted by bnglcat
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
258 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 12:24 am to
quote:

…but aren't you going to triple dry hop with galaxy and citra?


Hook is too shiny. This is English, therefore boring in nature. Shine/sparkles/metallic just isn't going to work here.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43565 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 12:46 am to
First....can your mash tun handle that amount of grains?

Second.....I would create at least a 2 liter starter ....but I would run it through a yest pitch calculator.... LINK.it may require a 3 or 4 liter starter.

Third...good luck....raising a kid may be easier than brewing that monster.
This post was edited on 9/19/15 at 12:51 am
Posted by bnglcat
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
258 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 12:51 am to
I actually plan on brewing a batch of ss minnow clone (4% English brown) that uses London esb And just pitching onto that yeast cake. So starter wise I should be good.

As for the mash tun, I have a 60 qt cube cooler that should handle that much grain and water. Should is the key word there.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43565 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 1:02 am to
Sounds like a good plan. The dry hopping wont do much for you after a couple of months after bottling.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16532 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 7:23 am to
I don't have any experience with that OG beer nor with barleywines, but it feels like your specialty malts amounts are a little low relative to the size of the grain bill, and with all that straight sugar you're gonna have a very hot, boozy beer
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30229 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 8:11 am to
I think oxygen is going to be your biggest enemy in this big endeavor. You need to do everything you can to limit it. If you have the ability to purge containers and transfer under pressure, I'd do it, and do go overboard with it. I'd drop the dry hop. That's only going to introduce more oxygen late in the game.

Your base recipe looks fine to me outside of the dry hops.

I'd definitely wax the bottles or cork and cage them.

Best of luck!
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