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re: Doing a prime brisket in the oven at 200 degrees, how long?

Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:19 pm to
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These are completely different pieces of meat




Hot and fast brisket is a thing. Plenty of competition brisket guys have been doing it for a while now.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:56 pm to
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Hot and fast brisket is a thing.


I agree. I think it turns out good brisket too. Chi asked why someone would cook it low and slow in an oven and the reason and I gave one. Most hot and fast briskets are also wrapped which helps retain heat and moisture which hasten the process of breaking down meat structure.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 3:00 pm to
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But I can make ribs in the oven in 2 hours that are completely "fall off the bone"...they don't need to go 5 hours
All you need to make ribs fall off the bone is to over cook them. Doesn't matter how long it takes to do it.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 5:04 pm to
My point (or rather, suggestion) still stands though...the fat and connective tissue break down at a certain temp. I agree that you need to keep it there for a while to give it time to actually render out, but what I'm saying is that if you power the brisket up to 200 running a 350 degree oven for a few hours and then back it off to 225 it's gonna give you the same output as running a 225 oven for way longer.

As opposed to smoking it where the longer time period gives more time for the meat to soak up the smoke.

I guess the only way to settle this is for fr33manator to do two briskets, one each way and then have a blind taste test with the fam.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 5:06 pm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 11:40 pm to
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Update?


Trimmed good bit of fat off
Rubbed with mustard powder, garlic powder, Montreal steak seasoning, tomato power, minced onion and few secret spices.

2 cups of tomato broth.

Let it sit at room temp for a few hours. Foil pan, foil pressed down and sealed. Oven 200 degrees, starting at 12am. Basted a couple times during the day.
Took it out about 6, basted again, Turned heat up to 250 for an hour.
Took foil off and tasted broth. Delicious.

Put it under broiler for 20 mins.
Let rest.

Look, I was prepared for it to be sub par. Dry. Tough.


Blew all our expectations out the water. Absolutely delicious. Tender, flavorful, moist. Not tough at all.

Nailed it.
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 8/20/20 at 12:11 am to
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and few secret spices.



My favorite part was when you posted the pics of brisket
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 8/20/20 at 12:15 am to
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 12:16 am
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:27 am to
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All you need to make ribs fall off the bone is to over cook them. Doesn't matter how long it takes to do it.


lol yep. "fall off the bone" is definitely not what I'm looking for when it comes to ribs
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