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re: Can i use beef tallow for a roux?

Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by Kyrie Eleison
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:53 pm to
I would like to know as well, sir.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:09 pm to
what would you like to know?
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:16 pm to
McDonalds used Beef Tallow in their French fry oil bland years back, until they got sued by Muslims who were alarmed when they learned non-Halal (sp?) oils were going into their bodies. The beef fat helped the fries brown and gave them some of the flavor we all loved back then.
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:42 pm to
Anybody seriously into the smoke point (temp) for cooking oils and fats can check out LINK

The flour used on making roux will brown (toast) in any oil that's heated above boiling (212F). The hotter the oil the browning faster it goes. Smoking oil/fat is breaking down and can add a bitter taste to roux.

Beef tallow and duck fat have a well-deserved reputation for producing fantastic fried potatoes.

When a roux breaks (separates) it has to do with how water fits into the mixture. A little acid helps keeps toasted flour, oil and water together...vinegar. I use Steens cane vinegar...apple cider vinegar is more widely available.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:58 pm to
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Don't go to bat for seed oils.
Oh good grief
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:49 pm to
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what would you like to know?

Generally: Why you aren’t banned for chronic stupidity.
Specifically: the answer to the question I was referencing regarding seed oils and also your attempt to stifle discussion about them.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 3:07 am to
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until they got sued by Muslims who were alarmed when they learned non-Halal (sp?) oils were going into their bodies.


What? No, this isn’t true.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 3:09 am to
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Generally: Why you aren’t banned for chronic stupidity.


Because I’m smarter than you are. I’m also better looking, in much better shape, and richer than you are. What do you do for a living again?

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Specifically: the answer to the question I was referencing regarding seed oils and also your attempt to stifle discussion about them.


Stifle discussion? Bitch, simp for seed oils all you want to. They’re horrible for your health. They’re rancid, oxidized oils. But if you like them so much, knock yourself out. I don’t care if you consume shitty foods.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 3:10 am to
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Oh good grief


Ok. Have you gotten over your fear of driving outside the U.S.?
Posted by WigSplitta22
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 7:33 am to
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s some of you know, seed oils are literal cancer in a bottle



Stop misusing the word literal and do some research. Seed oils are not bad
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 7:35 am to
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Seed oils are not bad


Yes, they are. Sounds like you’re the one who should do some research.
Posted by WigSplitta22
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:05 am to
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Sounds like you’re the one who should do some research.




I did

LINK


Eating more Omega 6 fats(which is found in multiple seed oils) resulted in lower inflammation or left unchanged

20+ years of research shows that consuming unsaturated fat in place of saturated fat is linked to lower risk of heart attack and deaths from heart disease. Polyunsaturated fats have shown to be the best replacement which are your Omega's which are found highly in seed oils.

I bet you think aspartame is bad for you too huh
This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 8:13 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:13 am to
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I did


Nice source. Hint, research a little of the background of authors and then read what they’re publishing with a critical eye.

Take a look at this one, which describes some of the potential psychological effects that seed oils may cause. It’s something I tend to agree with considering how angry people get when you mention that they’re bad for you.

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In parallel to this, industrialization has brought a dramatic change in the relative amount of ?-3 and ?-6 fatty acids consumed as part of the standard North American diet, in part due to the ubiquitous consumption of processed seed oils, which are relatively high in ?-6 PUFAs. An imbalance of ?-6 to ?-3 fatty acids impacts antagonistic biological pathways that can lead to an overproduction of inflammatory cytokines



Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58834 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:14 am to
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Eating more Omega 6 fats(which is found in multiple seed oils) resulted in lower inflammation or left unchanged

20+ years of research shows that consuming unsaturated fat in place of saturated fat is linked to lower risk of heart attack and deaths from heart disease. Polyunsaturated fats have shown to be the best replacement which are your Omega's which are found highly in seed oils.


Holy frick. 1980s level of nutritional understanding. How old are you?
Posted by WigSplitta22
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:19 am to





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Hint, research a little of the background of authors and then read what they’re publishing with a critical eye.



So you are saying facts are wrong? They literally followed 500,000 people for over 16 years for their research.

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which describes some of the potential psychological effects that seed oils may cause



May or does? Big difference sweetie. SO you linked a study that was largely graded by AI lol? Gotcha
Keep fear mongering and regurgitating bs you hear on the internet.



Posted by WigSplitta22
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:21 am to
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Holy frick. 1980s level of nutritional understanding. How old are you?




Were in 2024 now dumb frick. 1980 was 45 years ago
Posted by WigSplitta22
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:23 am to
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They’re horrible for your health. They’re rancid, oxidized oils.



Did you suck Bobby Parrish's dick this morning? Just so you know everything he says is for a monetized gain
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58834 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:32 am to
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Did you suck Bobby Parrish's dick this morning? Just so you know everything he says is for a monetized gain


See. Anger. All because someone doesn't like your industrial waste seed oils. I have no idea who Bobby Parrish is, but I'd likely trust him more than your weirdo Chinese scientists.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58834 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:33 am to
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Were in 2024 now dumb frick. 1980 was 45 years ago


Uh, yeah, no shite. That whooshing sound you hear is the point flying over your head.
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